""[Our critics are] throwing out a 'what if' that's premised on a basis of an evil, nefarious person breaking the law," Bear told Newsweek after the March Emery County study. "For there to be a problem here," he further explained to the New York Times, "you're basically assuming a premise where you have some evil and nefarious election officials who would sneak in and introduce a piece of software … I don't believe these evil elections people exist." "

This guy has got to be kidding. I sometimes think that some people in authority have absolutely no street smarts at all. Only a total naif would even say such a ridiculous thing. It's the same ridiculous inattention to the real world that people in the Bush administration have - e.g. Condi Rice's "no one" could have imagined planes flying into buildings. No one! Really? You mean YOU couldn't have imagined it....the rest of us sure could.

Yeah, the Ivy League is a hotbed of radicalism. Raging preppies with matching ties and butane torches demanding change. Change for a $100 bill. Kiss my ass, Bunnie.

Unfortunately, it may have had to take a study done at a university with the reputation of Princeton's to get the word out and for "mainstream" Americans to listen.

Nope. Princeton, as a flagship of the latte-drinking, terrorist-hugging liberal elite, will have no credibility with "mainstream" Americans.

-- Bonnie

Bonnie-

I can't tell if your are being serious or sarcastic. Princeton is the most conservative of the IVYs and has a significant amount of Republicans that went there or are going there.

If people plant the "idea" in mainstream america's head that Princeton is the flagship of the liberal elite....the it might stick, even if it's not factual....

And even joking about here just continues truthiness...

Unfortunately, it may have had to take a study done at a university with the reputation of Princeton's to get the word out and for "mainstream" Americans to listen.

Nope. Princeton, as a flagship of the latte-drinking, terrorist-hugging liberal elite, will have no credibility with "mainstream" Americans.

So what if it takes even three weeks to count paper ballots, then let it take three weeks. It should take as long as it takes to get DEMONSTRABLY accurate and honest election results.

Canada seems to have a very good election system. Are they smarter then we are, maybe they are.

But you see in Canada they don't have the corrupt Repub machine that has taken control of America.

There are, have been, and always will be problems with vote counts. The sheer volume of votes- among all the other variables listed below- ensure this. We must give greatest attention to the largest areas of possbile security breaches. 'The price of freedom is eternal vigilance'. It is hard, it is complicated, and it is ESSENTIAL to our democracy.

I was under the impression that Diebold machines do not produce ANY paper records, anonymous or not, to be taken home or otherwise. I may be wrong. But when I read the quote from Diebold's PR guy, that he doubts that there are 'evil, malicious people' out there to fix elections I nearly died snarfing on my coffee. I mean really, what would Dick Cheney have to say?? If there is even a one percent chance that something like this could happen, we have to treat it as if the threat is real. If it's good enough to protect and promote democracy overseas, our standard at home should be at least as high, right?

Now our job, RIGHT NOW, is to use everything at our disposal to get this story attention in the MSM. I have seen some stories that touch on the problems with e-voting, so i know that there is at least SOME chance that MSM will carry the story, it is our job NOW to make sure that this happens RIGHT NOW, while there is still a chance to do something about it. call your local newspaper, use your coalition of voter fraud organizations to issue press releases to every news outlet imaginable, from backwater missouri to Times square. And not just in the US, but everywhere. We are in an age of instant global news and communications, we should use that to force our reluctant media to you know, report stuff. This is an opportunity for progressives to use all means necessary to turn the noise up, to make the 'chatter' over MSM's signal intelligence community impossible to ignore. Make all the lights flash red(or blue, in this case)

As I was trying to say...

As much as I appreciate this article and the Princeton study, these arguments over tampered electronic voting machines are moot. Today we live im a country in which a candidate (in Ohio) is permitted to run for governor while retaining his position of Secretary of State, allowing him oversight of his own election.

All this talk of pesky, controversial, hackable electronic voting machines is no longer necessary when you simply "eliminate the middleman."

Why isn't this located in the "News" section of Salon? By no stretch is the information reported in this story properly described as OPINION. You wouldn't consider a story that was a straight report on results of university-based medical research to be opinion, would you?

I cannot believe the revelations of this Princeton study haven't been trumpeted across the entire MSM yet -- oh, wait a minute, I forgot, our media now take their marching orders from the government, and they haven't been given a green light yet.

Wonder if this Princeton study will vanish down the memory hole without making a ripple?

*sigh*