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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 12:00 AM

Impeach Bush

The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever -- and he's taking us into the darkness with him. It's time to remove him.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 05:41 AM

Perhaps you haven't thought this through

While I believe he deserves impeachment, doing so now would leave Gunner (Cheney) in the oval office, which to me is a scarier proposition than simply letting the lame duck run its course.

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 05:43 AM

Is this Salon or Daily Kos?

Country Wisdom here or a cow pile? I think more of the latter frankly.

Mr Keillor is right and well to complain about that things are not well and to his liking, but impeachment? So Dick Cheney can take over? Dennis Hastert? Or how far shall we go down? Shall it be Coups R US time? I would frankly suggest that voting during the next election cycle would be the more appropriate course of action to register your displeasure.

But wait? I never really got the charges for this impeachment other than severe Bush Derangement Syndrome? Guantanamo and "illegal detentions"? (Please tell me a better way of how to deal with the problem of extra-national combatants first - and then get a bulldozer out and knock down that statue of FDR on the mall for complicity in the rather larger scale of Japanese-American detentions during WWII) Torture & Humiliation ? I thought we had trials about Abu Gharib and the killings in Afghanistan and we put people in jail? Iraq? Anyone that wants to make "judgments" about success/failure before 5 to 10 years about that is frankly fooling themselves.

But I digress - and want to hit my real point - since I seem to be the only one with a contrarian opinion here - what, may I ask is the alternative? I hear many complaints, but no suggestions for change. Do we lock up the USA and close all the ports and prohibit foreign ownership of business in the USA? Do we start treating all prisoners of war as individual wards of the court? Do we make nice with everyone and pretend to get along? (With the cartoon intifada still raging, I would think that pretending that "dialog" to change behavior would be deep in the rubbish heap. What, pray tell, are alternatives other than "we can do better"?

You want a change? - Then put together a program that address these issues and convince the American people to back you. You can bitch and you can moan all you want, but in the end - unless you can show how you can do better - then stop dreaming that impeaching Bush will make the rest of the world suddenly behave.

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 05:55 AM

Yes but

I am a British citizen living in the UK and I (along with many outside the US) would love to see Bush impeach. But what would that solve? The question is why is Bush in power in the first place? Why did political debate and the election process fail so badly? And why are the only dissenting voices heard in the ‘preach to the converted’ media like Salon.

I think the mid term election this year in the US is probably the most important election to be held in the world in our life times. Because if Bush and all that he stands for are not defeated then I believe the world will literally go to HELL. Are you who oppose Bush ready to do what needs to be done? Do you (Will you) have a credible opposition? Have you a message that the whole of America wants to hear that is more than a lose collection vaguely liberal ideas wrapped in right wing rhetoric?

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 06:26 AM

Garrison...You have some nerve

I mean really. Just because thousands of Americans and Iraqis are dead, thousands more wounded and maimed, and civil war is on the brink of breaking out in a country where our President started a war based entirely upon a lie, you seem to think that's reason to impeach him. Just because people are being tortured in prison camps in Guantanamo, Eastern Europe and elsewhere in secret locations around the world, you get up on your soapbox and say we should remove the man from office! Okay, there is the illegal wiretap thing and of course the no-bid contracts with Halliburton stuff, so I agree there is some funny business going on here. Oh, I almost forgot about that Katrina thing too. Hey, who would have thought that the guy you appointed to head FEMA -- the Commissioner from the Arabian Horse Association didn't know a whole lot about disasters. Really, horses...hurricanes...they both begin with "h". And of course (how could I forget) the guy who is really behind the attack on our country on Sepember 11, 2001 is still at large after four and a half years. But come on Garrison, the way that you're talking you'd think the President had had sex with an intern or something.

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 06:38 AM

we DIDN"T vote them in...

they stole it and will steal it again.

Obviously without scruples, so what makes us think that we can vote them out? I was thinking that maybe the next election if everyone brought a piece of paper with their vote written on it and left in a box on the table when we left as proof ......hmmm

sometimes we need to go backwards to be able to go forward.

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 07:04 AM

the stench of hope pervades us all

There are two flavors of unreasoning optimism at work in this country.

On one side, you have Bush and his pet Fox, with their constantly turned corners and rosy diagnoses of civil war in Iraq having some silver lining we're all just too stupid to see. On the other, those who hope that this country is going to wake up from its nightmare and remove Bush and company from the White House, that public opinion has ever mattered one iota to this Administration and the corporations who run it. These two malaises have crossed somehow, creating a superbug whose main symptom is mass blindness.

The fact is, it's hard to tell a freefall from the miracle of flight because they both give the impression of weightlessness.

Most problems can be looked at as opportunities, and this pair is no different. Both enable us to avoid the confrontation which is rising up to meet us. Members of the Reality Based Community do not want to face the fact that they cannot change this country from behind their iPods. How different is this from chickenhawk Republicans with multiple deferrments gleefully sending American young poor people to murder poor civilians in Iraq and elsewhere?

The fact that Jon Stewart's show is funny does not mean that what's happening to our country (and the rest of the world) is funny. I think those who hope for impechment should consider that something much more unpleasant and personally costly is required. Don't worry, I don't have the courage to do it either. But if enough people like me lose their jobs, maybe that will change.

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