Can't you wingnuts come up with a new line?

Whenever someone talks about making a better society, a fairer, healthier, better society, you immediately jump for the strawman/red herring box and pull out "lazy people".

Sheesh. That was overplayed and played out back in the 80s when Reagan talked about welfare queens.

Government gives far, far more money to people who are already rich. We want that to stop. Who said anything about giving money to lazy people? In fact, that's why we want the government to stop corporate welfare.

We want every single penny of our tax dollars spent to make life better for our citizens. We want public money spent on the public. We don't want one single penny to go to the already rich who don't need the help and have plenty of resources on their own.

By investing in America, investing in roads, bridges, virtual and physical infrastructure, protecting the environment, our food supply, our water, our air, we can make life better for everyone. Build better schools, devote more resources to improving our educational system. Add libraries. Expand national parkland. None of those things can be done by individuals alone, and the private sector has zero incentive to do any of them. That takes government. Like it or not, our society is too complex to go back to everyone fending for himself or herself. We're too interconnected, and too internationalized for that. Your libertarian dreams are completely out of whack with reality.

Not to mention the fact that you no doubt take advantage of government provided services every day of your life. Which makes you a hypocrite.

Do you drive on our roads and bridges? Do you go to public libraries? Did you go to public schools, or send your kids to them? Do you eat or drink water inspected by the government? Have you ever needed help from the police, firefighters, first responders? What about public hospitals? Your coasts are guarded by civil servants. Your country is protected by government employees.

You don't want the government to tax you? Then get off the grid. As in, everything. Don't drive on our roads, don't use ANYTHING that the government provides. Get off the grid. Don't ever, ever ask the police for help, or firefighters, or hospitals, or first responders, etc. etc..

I dare ya to really go John Galt.

Governing Alaska is basically hard on management hence the braggadocio about developing the pipeline. It was all talk being a psychopath she had no intention of bringing the pipeline to climax from day one.

What about her handlers? Gone Palin knew from day one she is her best own pimp.

How lucky that instead of Sarah Palin we got an affirmative action child, from a chaotic and secretive background.

Just imagine if voters had plumped for a apparatachik from the sewers of Blagoland, living in the pocket of Tony Risko and the public service unions. A creature of terrorists like Ayres and Dohrn. A law academic who never felt the need to publish, a lawyer with an aversion to fighting cases in court, a politician who was "present" but no more.

Libtards only attack Sarah Palin to hide their guilt at electing such a dismal candidate like BHO. The system needs to change when such underachievers can run for high office.

How come the left can't produce successful female leaders like Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Golda Meir and Sarah Palin?

Don't you faggotts like women or something?

Your diet of dogshit has confused you thanksatan for the Alantic.

Did you get past fifth grade?

Judging from your post, it doesn't look like it. And you have the nerve to say Conason doesn't know his history?

The Church Committee? You think they were traitors? The committee designed to try to rein in government abuse against American citizens and citizens in other countries? That strikes you as something bad? I guess Joe McCarthy is a hero of yours.

From wikipedia:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Church_Committee

Background

By the early years of the 1970s, the unpopularity of the Vietnam War and the unfolding Watergate scandal brought the era of minimal oversight to an abrupt halt. Congress was determined to rein in the Nixon administration and to ascertain the extent to which the nation's intelligence agencies had been involved in questionable, if not outright illegal, activities.

A series of troubling revelations started to appear in the press concerning intelligence activities. First came the revelations of Christopher Pyle in January 1970 of the U.S. Army's spying on the civilian population[1][2] and Sam Ervin's Senate investigations that resulted. The dam broke on 22 December 1974, when The New York Times published a lengthy article by Seymour Hersh detailing operations engaged in by the CIA over the years that had been dubbed the "family jewels". Covert action programs involving assassination attempts against foreign leaders and covert attempts to subvert foreign governments were reported for the first time. In addition, the article discussed efforts by intelligence agencies to collect information on the political activities of US citizens.[3]

These revelations convinced many Senators and Representatives that the Congress itself had been too lax, trusting, and naive in carrying out its oversight responsibilities.

Righties seem to be coming out of the woodwork to play fanboy for Palin and do their best to show their ignorance about politics, history, current events, etc.

Meanwhile, in the real world . . .

Contrary to your fantasy projections, "liberals" haven't held any meaningful power in America for more than 35 years. The last "liberal" president was LBJ, and he wasn't liberal on some key issues, like Vietnam.

The Media is not "liberal", by any stretch of the imagination. We have mountains of proof regarding that, like the overwhelming advantage in numbers of Republicans appearing on TV.

When Bush and the GOP owned the White and Congress, they outnumbered Dems in the Media. Supposedly because they had control of so much of DC. But when the Dems took Congress, the GOP retained their dominance of the tube. And now, Dems have the trifecta, and still the GOP dominates the tube. And if we break it down ideologically, there's even more imbalance, as the typical Dem asked on to talk about the issues is a centrist.

The WaPo has been centrist for a long, long time, with their Op Ed page now being run by neocons. The New York Times will often reach out and hire a wingnut, but rarely will do the same for a progressive.

The establishment in America has been "conservative" for a long, long time, and the Media are owned by very conservative multinationals. On topics like war, health care, the environment, and economic inequality, the prevailing narrative is generally centrist to center-right. It's rarely "liberal".

In short, your ugly vitriol against liberals, socialists, feminists, marxists, etc. should be embarrassing to you all. Because you're screaming and yelling at phantoms. There is no power base for liberals and feminists right now, much less socialists and marxists, which, contrary to your wingnut media AREN'T the same things. The left has a very wide range of diverse ideologies, and you don't get any of it right.

You know who really has been in power for more than three decades? You guys. If you're pissed about the state of this nation, look in the mirror. Cuz you keep voting for incompetent, pro-corporate, warmongering assholes. And the Dems seem to think they can only counter that by a little bit, by playing in down the middle.

Now, when we actually DO get a real progressive in office -- again, we haven't had one for decades, and our last best chance was murdered in 1968 -- then, by all means, blast away. But at least have the decency to criticize existing things, real life, reality, instead of your own personal demons projected on non-existent forces.

Oh, and BTW, "Quisling" is not a very good name for righties to throw out there. Remember? He betrayed his country to Hitler, a hard-right murderous lunatic. A guy on YOUR side of the political aisle.