Letters to the Editor
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The fallacy in your reasoning
Mr. Conason is your expectation that theclinton's "broader coalition" actually exists. So far in this primary race they have managed to offend practically every demographic segment of the Democratic Party base except for her women and their hard working undereducated White voters who have been voting contrary to their own economic wellbeing for the last 25 years. Theclintons have _assumed_ throughout this race they could say anything and do anything and the rest of the party would line up behind them if they were the nominee and that all would be forgiven. I am not convinced they would be the case.
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HILLARY + CLINTON INC. --- a long 'histiry' of racism!!!'
Are HILLARY and her followers (e.g. PAUL BERGALA and his illustrative comments about B. HUSSEIN OBAMA:" Can this party win with only 'eggheads' and AFRO-AMERICANS???") merely continuing the paranoia/racist origins of this fine group of lunatics like THOMAS JEFFERSON who divorced himself from the 'FEDERALISTS' because he assumed that if the 'FEDERALISTS' could control the basnking/economics of the nation the next issue they would outlaw was 'SLAVERY'??? DEMBHOLE CRACKPOTS allways imbued with racism/stupidity as their core beliefs!!!
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Rocky 57
I probably missed it because you didn't post in 2012. See below:
"She'll be challenged in the primary by an opportunistic opponent who'll sense that she'll be vulnerable with key demographics, in NYS. Don't be surprised if she's weakened by a surprisingly strong intra-party opposition....and loses in either the primary, or the general election."
Anyway, that's awhile away to be making predictions. It's more likely that whatever damage done now is just the heat of the moment. She'll have years to figure it out.
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Arguing on the internet
Poco posted this in the Tom Tomorrow letters the other day and I have to plagiarize him/her now
Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics. You may win but you're still retarded.
- Another under-educated/working class white male who's voting Obama.
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Please say that is on a T shirt
Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics. You may win but you're still retarded.
I wish that was on a tshirt and I could get away with wearing it.
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@lolcait & any supporter of the Senator from New York
Perhaps Senator Obama's supporters would feel bad about their rightous indignation with regard to Senator Clinton if Senator Clinton was not advoating their disenfranchisement.
Senator Clinton has lost or will lose to be specific the popular vote and the pledged delegate count.
Her entire argument is that elections don't matter and she should be crowned the Nominee because of her supporters demographics.
That's it. That's her argument.
If she has another argument, please lay it out here.
Let us understand why you defend our disenfranchisement, why we shouldn't have bothered to vote, because Senator Clinton must win regardless of anything else.
If you have an explaination on this issue that doesn't involve the disregarding of the popular vote and pledged delegate majority to further your prefered candidates ends, please let us know.
We too think our candidate should lead our party to victory in November, the differnce is our argument relies on the facts, and not mearly our will to thwart others.
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lolcait
For you to claim that the Clintons have not used race in a negative way in this campaign is just idiotic. You only need 1/10th of a brain, and just the slightest interest in the truth, to recognize that they have repeatedly and intentionally attempted to use Obama's race as an electoral weapon against him.
Another point: why do all the Hillary supporters keep referring to Obama voters as star-struck worshippers? I am not into idol worship. I am a cynic and a skeptic, and I don't think any politician embodies all of my hopes and dreams. I support Obama because I think he'll be the best president among those still running (I initially supported Edwards). Most of the people I know and associate with feel the same way. We are not in love with Obama, we agree with his policy positions and see him as better able to defeat McCain, given that 50% of our population has hated Hillary for the past 16 years. In addition, Hillary is way too compromised. Both she and Bill have proven time and time again that they are more concerned with getting and keeping power than with fighting for the values they allegedly hold dear.
If you doubt that, read this transcript from a broadcase of NOW with Bill Moyers from a few years back: http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript306_full.html
Moyers interviewed an author who personally spoke with Hillary when she was First Lady about pending bankruptcy legislation and how the credit card companies were maximizing their profits by finding new ways to make middle class people's lives extremely difficult. Initially Clinton agreed with this woman that proposed bankruptcy legislation favorable to the banks was not something the Democrats should support. But after she became a senator, and counted credit card companies like MBNA among her biggest contributors, Clinton reversed her position and supported the bill. So much for fighting for working-class, hard-working Americans.
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Give her the nomination already
According to Hillary, only a candidate who has the support of the majority of uneducated hard working(although often unemployed) whites, deserves the Democratic nomination. Based on that fascinating logic, and since she's apparently very popular in Romania and Latvia, two societies with many uneducated, hard working white people, she should be given the nomination. And no, I don't think Hillary is a racist...as far as I know.
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The average Hillary supporter on this site
would defend Hillary against charges of racism if she put in a white pointy hat and burned a cross on top of Martin Luther King's grave while singing "Duetsche land uber alles." After all, any criticism of it would clearly qualify as race baiting on Obama's part.
The statement was racist. It was not a matter of her correcting herself - she was emphasising that white working class Americans are somehow the only hard working Americans there are.
If she meant it differently then she should come out and say so, then maybe we can move on from this issue and she can maybe salvage her New York seat. As it stands I would not be surprised if this whole mess ended up wiping out her political career and her political legacy, such as it is.