Letters to the Editor
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Will Obama Win Enough White Votes to Beat McCain?
From Art Levine article:
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA Today. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
Clinton's blunt remarks about race came a day after primaries in Indiana and North Carolina dealt symbolic and mathematical blows to her White House ambitions.
Yet Obama doesn't need a majority of blue-collar white voters to win the general election, and he's unlikely to win them all over.
As an ABC pollster observed before that Kerry vs. Bush election:
"When we run data from our recent polls we find that married, middle- and lower-income white men account for a single-digit share of the national population, and support President Bush in precisely the same proportion as all white men. (Make it rural white men, and it goes down to low single digits.) And white men, particularly Southern white men, are a solidly Republican group, highly unlikely to swing anywhere, anyhow."
"For good measure, we checked rural, suburban or small city married white men with children and incomes under $50,000 in the 2000 exit poll. They accounted for 2 percent of all voters, and supported Bush over Gore by 70 percent to 27 percent. You really want to call this a swing voter group?"
A nuanced look at the racial dynamics at Real Clear Politics, found that Obama's reduced some of the defections among whites since Ohio and Pennsylvania. That outlet's analyst found:
"Clinton did about as well in Indiana as she did in Pennsylvania and Ohio with white men, white Protestants, and seniors. However, beyond this, she suffered a decline among her best groups. Notice in particular her decline among white women, white Catholics, and union households. Basically, the core of her voting bloc was still with her, but Obama picked off a larger portion of it than he did in Ohio and Pennsylvania."
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AKA
I would like to know if you concur with manos assessment of me cause if you do, I will put you on my ignore list faster than you can say white racist!
You are basing your decision on who is best to run America on some of a given politicians followers, and not even all of that politicians given followers, but simply the ones you have encountered online.
You are no different to a sheep - you are not making your decision based on actually thinking about the candidates, you are rather basing it on which herd you would rather be with.
Now my opposition to Hillary is based on her. That a lot of Hillary supporters are hypocrites with a penchant for using Republican talking points only reinforces my view, it doesn't actually inform my view.
If Hillary had not voted for the Iraq war, if she had not drummed up hysteria around "Hot Coffee" and if she had run a campaign that didn't hurt the Democratic party I would have supported her whether her supporters were nice people or not because ultimately, I would not be voting for her supporters I would be voting for her.
Even so if she had won the primary I would have voted for her because ultimately, as angry as a lot of Hillary supporters have made me, they aren't the ones who would end up in that Oval Office - it would be Hillary Clinton and she is still better than McCain.
But you have decided your vote not based on the candidates, not based on policy and not even based on which of them you feel you could have a beer with - you have based it on what some of the one candidate's supporters have had to say to you.
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John Edwards' political obituary:
If John Edwards stays in the race, he might, in the end, become nothing other than the Southern white man who stood in the way of the black man. And for that, he would deserve a lifetime of liberal condemnation.
Lawrence O'Donnell
Huffington Post
January 11, 2008
This sort of manipulation is not what the Democratic Party should represent.
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@Proud Texas Girl
I don't know if you are racist but you certainly sound like it. This is mot likely due to ignorance. Your easy way of lumping so many different people together, your implication that black people want handouts and latinos don't...what's to say? You're ignorant.
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@ProudTexasGirl
ProudTexasGirl: "Racism spacism, pretty soon black people are going to be irrelevant because everyone is going to be poor and out of work."
Uhhhhh.... There is so much wrong with this sentence I don't know where to start. I guess I'd start with the equation of "black" with "poor and out of work."
ProudTexasGirl: "Also, Hispanics are the new black vote--and unlike blacks they tend to vote Republican because for the most part they do not like handouts."
I read an article today that shows the Hispanic demographics have become more Democrat. Your line about blacks liking handouts is ugly.
ProudTexasGirl: "Poverty will be the new ism, and many of you who think you are immune will be getting quite the comeuppance--and deservedly so."
Why do you think people deserve to be poor as some form of comeuppance?
ProudTexasGirl: "Barack Hussein Obama is a wanna-be-zillionaire with a very, hmm, global outlook. He has no intention of helping America..."
What's "hmmm" about Obama's global outlook? What is wrong with a global outlook? Why do you think he doesn't want to help America? Why do you think you can see into his heart of hearts and see this villainy? Just a guess, or do you have some cool psychic powers?
ProudTexasGirl: "When you support, defend, and vote for him you are pounding the nails into your own coffin."
That is an interesting trick, to pound nails into the outside of a coffin while inside of it. Please do explain that, and while you're at it, explain how voting for Obama is going to cause people harm that wouldn't be caused by Clinton. What will she do differently?
ProudTexasGirl: "STOP it when you still have the chance to vote for someone that actually cares about you."
You are funny. Now you can also see into Hillary Clinton's heart. You think she cares about us? Awwww. The other day you even said she was "loving." You've really made up your mind that one candidate is evil and the other is pure goodness, huh?