Letters to the Editor
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I think people treat you well here, AKA.
Honestly, I do. Most people, including and perhaps even mostly Obama supporters, sense that you are a serious, exacting person and respond in kind. In fact, it seems to me sometimes that you are treated with kid gloves. I'm not sure why, and that's not meant insultingly, just an observation. Please don't confuse disagreement with disrespect.
Now I'm off to bed.
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Why not just write in
"I'm screwing myself and my kid out of spite!" than Hillary Clinton? It's more accurate. And all because you got cheesed off on a damn message board? These are people you have never met, that you do not and should not really care about, ma'am. Seriously. Have you taken leave of your senses?
I find Hillary Clinton repugnant, and have for many years now--although for none of the reasons the Right does. She has made all kinds of new reasons of late. Believe it or not, I still stick up for her against those nutjobs. But if she had won this nomination, i would've voted for her no matter what the likes of you or any other Clinton zealot said to me about my judgement or about Obama. In fact,I wouldn't have wasted my time on message boards defending Obama. It would've been a done deal. Over. Time to move on. Gotta do what you gotta do to keep that whackjob McCain out of the White House.
Boys and girls are being blown to bits in Iraq right this fricking minute, lady. Habeas corpus is still suspended RIGHT NOW. 3 Supreme court justices will need replacement. We are in massive, massive debt that promises to get bigger under McCain--this is what you want to leave to your daughter, and the daughters and sons of the US?
Grab a hold of yourself, for god's sake. This is a pissant message board. Out there is the world. And it is real and it is bleeding and your bruised ego is NOTHING in the scheme of things. Get the hell over yourself.
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It's politically incorrect to like manos.
He cracks me up a lot and even seems poetic in his incisiveness. But I readily admit it's because he and I like the same candidate. For a bit of reversal, try ShawnWM on for size. I think of him as just plain mean, but I bet you, AKA, hardly "see" him. If you do, and if you reject him, then you are a better man than I. (No sexism intended.)
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It's a lot like this, not just to take a smart piss
IF that old biddy AKA could ever arrive at just one honest and concise point, then manos would happily split this damn joint.
I you want to debate her all the day and the night, then you my friend know futility's, most fruitless long fight.
Lots of luck to you, you will need it in ever patient abundance.
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Not only don't I agree but am sorry for any real pain people are feeling and recognize there IS sexism
Certainly not everything Hillary Clinton has said or done in this campaign is racist. Certainly she has been charged with racism (unfarily) on more than one occassion. Certainly the amount of sexism in this campaign has been shocking, disgusting and enough to shake anyone. For that I'm sorry.
Having said that there have been times where I think Hillary (and even more times where Bill) has, if not been racist certainly used racially divisive politics to their advantage.
Given Bill Clinton's very intimate knowledge of African-Americans and black culture it is hard to believe it is accidental (especially on his part.) Add in the statements of some of his very close friends (some of whom are black to be fair) like Robert Johnson and you really have to start to wonder.
Hillary Clinton does have things to recommend her. Understand to me they're few and far between, and her faults (especially her recent statements with regards to Iran, Iraq, bankruptcy bill) far overwhelm them.
Hope (some) Clinton supporters come around in the end and realize the issues, like a hundred years in Iraq and McCain's promise to appoint conservative justices, win out. But again, not female and can't understand the level of hurt many of her supporters (who have loyally supported the party) have undergone. For that I am sincerely and deeply sorry. We will, all of us as Party, try to do better.
Also don't blame all of the faults of Obama's supporters on Obama. To me, he's done his best (not perfect, but best) to be respectful of Hillary Clinton, particularly now. The Democratic Party needs her base, WCW and white women. Think she's not giving Obama enough credit for what he is getting here, but still.
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Thanks for this, Maddie P.
I've been meaning all night to thank Maddie P for posting this excellent Obama interview with Brian Williams:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#24528221
It just defies the literal senses to interpret any resentment or disrespect toward Hillary when he's asked about her. He's so very, very measured in his search for just the right word, and the bonus is that he gives just the right answers. His temperament is pitch perfect. When have we seen better? Not in my lifetime.
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The death of a compaign
The language used is the death of her campaign to my ear and to my heart.
From a son of the South who knows what 'it' when I hear "it",
J Fred in Nashville
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@ lateagain and MaddieP
Very informative interview.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#24528221
I've absolutley no doubt he will be our next President.
No triangulation, no over calculation, no BS.
Here's a tip to budding pols in the post-Bush era. Regardless of what poll numbers say, if all the experts and all of the evidence lead you to make a hard decision, make it. The American people will back you up and appreciate the candor.
It used to be McCain's hallmark. It appears from his gas tax fiasco that he's learned the wrong lesson from the Bush years.
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time for: "get out of the way, or you are just another white racist keeping the black man down"
Those were the attacks on Edwards before he suspended. Lawrence O'Donnell said almost exactly that on HuffingtonPost then appeared on MSNBC as an analyst. Saw him do almost do almost the same this week against Clinton.
There are a lot of people including candidates who are sitting on stories that could damage candidates. In spite of various claims online, the Supreme Court is too important for her to have a 2012 strategy or for us to risk for us to trust and not verify .
The question for many of us: Is it better for Dems to expose the problems facing Obama ourselves fairly soon and deal with them before the convention or way until fall to see what the Repubs have found when it is too late to respond?
Since the press hasn't done much vetting and there are obvious inconsistencies and distortions between "the compelling life story" and what classmates and others have said, I expect that bloggers Dem/left will soon be raising their own questions.