Even though ShawnWM accurately describes a lot of things that piss off those of us who are not fanatically devoted to Obama, he (or she) also illustrates the absolute worst in both Clinton supporters and Obama supporters. Why can't we all just grow up? Neither candidate is perfect and both of them are trying to win in a system that's miles from perfect. In a political environment shaped by our hyper-disfunctional media, trying to "change the tone" is sort of like trying to disarm in the middle of a war.

But in reality, neither candidate has really been all that vicious with the other. 95% of the "divisiveness" and "bitterness" and so on in this campaign has been fabricated and/or blown out of proportion by our delightfully shallow and bloodthirsty media. Don't believe the hype - and I'm talking to you Obama fanatics especially, here.

The good news is that, if you happen to actually be concerned with issues, both candidates are damn good. I wish ShawnWM would tone it down and acknowledge that, even if he (or she) thinks Hillary is better, Obama is not the worst thing in the world. The same goes for the legions of Obama fanatics.

I didn't know that the black community got together and wrote a giant treatise that only you had access to, admitting that they're all a bunch of idiots who don't care about the economy, health care, education, or jobs. You've really opened my eyes.

As I said in this thread earlier I would rather that Hilary did knowingly lie about the 'sniper fire' than ponder the possibility of a 'Walter Mitty' character becoming president of the most powerful(for now at least) nation on earth with their finger on the nuclear trigger.

I don't like Hilary. I see here as yet another corporatist candidate who will not only not end the war, but start new ones on behalf of the oligarchy for whom she toils. Obama is probably the same, don't expect much (like a quick end to the occupation of Iraq) and you will be happy with him.

I say that I don't like Hilary because I want to defend her. She was not lying when she "misspoke" about landing under fire in Bosnia. Hilary knows, very very well, that everything she says gets fact checked, so when she told that story it seems probable that she did not realize that that the "incident" never happened.

More likely she confabulated the memory. No doubt she was told repeatedly that the trip was dangerous and received lots of warnings about how she might come under sniper fire, etc. Over time these warnings, and her memories, melded into a false narrative -- this phenomenon is called confabulation. Confabulation is common, we all do it, most of us don't get caught.

Hilary subconsciously wanted to make herself the hero, and over time, in her own mind at least, she was. She confabulated. She did not lie.

John Dean got caught too. See the link...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/john_deans_memory_and_scooter.html

Do you really think that the number one issue in the black community, in SC or any other state is the race of the candidate?

Yes. Furthermore since they themselves admit it, what's there to argue about?

See? This is how the left does itself in. While it's peachy okay for blacks to vote for their man and accuse the most black friendly administration in US history of being "racist", , then when if Hillary wins it's the 'Bradley effect'. Nobody could possibly be offended by the obnoxious Obama campaign and supporters who have run the most divisive, dishonest campaign I have ever seen a Dem launch while trying to project it onto their opponents. Nobody could possibly have legitmate concerns about his weak resume and his eyebrow raising associations. Nobody could just recognize the country is crumbling to ashes and remember that the Clintons successfully pulled us out of the first Bush meltdown and created surpluses and 23 million good paying jobs in the private sector. Nobody could logic that while the race was statstically 3-way heat, the Republicans had already done the damage they could do to Hillary whereas they were just starting on Obama and recognize she'd beaten the Republicans every time and was the most likely to.

No, No, we all must be RACIST RUBES!!!!!!!!!!

This is the hypocrisy that makes the hard left despised across 80-90% of America.

I don't think that very many Clinton supporters are racist, but you should look closely at the sentiments you are sharing with the world. Kinda scary. Do you really think that the number one issue in the black community, in SC or any other state is the race of the candidate? And your attempt to mimic urban vernacular is silly if not bothersome. You should step back and check yourself a bit.

I would not be the least bit surprised if the people using terms like "Obamabots" today are the same people who tried to make "Deaniac" derisive last time. Wake up, silly gits. Your time is over. It's our time now. Get used to it.

Hillary has herself and through surrogates been subjecting Obama to those same "Hillary rules" with increasing verve over the last 6-8 weeks. Certainly, when Obama is the nominee the Republican party can and will do worse, but I think that if Democrats begin to think as a unit again there are steps that can be taken to counter-act this "business as usual" Republican tactic (see also: Glenn Greenwald).

Obama's big mistake is that he never scored that big knockout blow -- California, New York or Ohio would have done it. ...

Well, see there are realist and adults in these states. Hispanics, elderly, working class folks who understand what's at stake.

Whereas when Obama runs in Idaho and the only Democrats are college students he wins hands down. When he runs in South Carolina where 85% of the Democrats are black finally happy to be able to vote for "da man", he wins hands down. When he runs in Texas and Pennsylvania where Rush Limbaugh and the radical right have been encouraging Republicans to vote for him than he at least comes close.

But in states that are any measure of what would come in November, such as New Jersey and CAlifornia and Florida - really really bad news for the Obamateur and for the Dems if he's shoved down our throats by the loser leftwingers.