Letters to the Editor
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maureeno'donnell
from the historical pages of race and patriotism re. reverend wright's positions:
"What...is the Fourth of July?...A day that reveals to him more than all other days, the gross injustice cruelty to which he is a constant victim...your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity;...your denunciation of tyrants, brass-fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, your religious parade are...bombast, fraud, deception, impiety and hypocrisy..."
Does that speech sound hateful? It was a speech given by Frederick Douglass, the freed slave in 1852. As for Wright's history and context, you might have to visit the city of Chicago. With Obama and Wright differences, there is also a significant generational difference. Obama hasn't experienced the same things Wright has so their perspectives aren't identical even if they have been part of the same church.
Top of the morning to you.
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@maureen: Look before you leap:
Maureen, I think you're in the deep end of the pool on this one. It's clear to me that Obama is looking to move beyond the politics of the '60's and '70s and has said so repeatedly. This would include figures like Rev. Wright and Ferraro. I agree with this, because I think these figures are stuck in the past. Because they are stuck in the past, their ability to effect postive change today is much diminished. Personally, if I had to listen to the Rev Wright every Sunday recycle the same of old litany, and see how things were not getting done, and how nothing was changing, I would seek a new direction myself.
I found it strange that Barack Obama was so hung-up about his racial identity as he was born and, for the most part, raised in Hawaii where only 20% of the population is white and his skin colour would have blended in far more easily with the majority of people there than if he'd had red hair and fair, freckled skin.
It's true that Hawai'i is an Island paradise. But it also has it's share of ethnic tensions between native hawaiians, asians (mostly japanese) and white people (haole). Just because it's the Island of Pele, doesn't mean you can escape human nature. So it's very not strange.
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Shooter.
You kinda lost in a thicket of lousy analogies at the start there, but your basic points seems to be this:
"“Do The Math,” Do the Math,”………What is this, a parlor game? When you play Blackjack, or to be more politically correct, 21, you “Do The Math.” In politics, you do the public’s wishes."
Shooter, most of the public has already spoken -- that's how Obama has an insurmountable lead in the pledged delegates. You can ignore this fact if you wish, but don't be surprised when the end comes for Sen. Clinton. The math -- which is based on the wishes of the public -- is now inexorable.
Finally, just as a rhetorical point, you'd sound more convincing if you referred to "Barrack" as "Senator Obama," just you do "Senator Clinton."
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@NYShooter The Super delegates
I agree with that we need to find out if Obama can take a punch or if Hillary has the skills to take it to the next level. But I haven't gotten my arms around the Super Delegate issue yet, other than to think that some are craven. Was it acceptable for a large number of Super Delegates to pre declare for Hillary or Obama? Isn't that a rubber stamp? On the flip side, shouldn't a Senator or other politician be allowed to endorse a candidate? Is it really weak kneed to change your position based on the opinions of your constituients? It could be.
Shouldn't the Super delegates be able to step in at any time if they feel the interests of the party as a whole are being damaged?
And that’s the issue of the Super delegates, the reason for their creation, their duties and their responsibilities. I mean, simple logic would dictate that if, assuming the “math” is similar to today, and we anoint the “leader” as our Candidate based on those numbers, who needs the Super delegates? Were they conceived to be Super Rubber Stampers? They were created for just a situation like this and charged with the duty of exercising their best judgment as to what’s in the best interest of our country, and our party. I have been quite disheartened that so many weak kneed delegates have so early succumbed to the momentary wave of emotions and pledged themselves, or changed their preference so as to be on the “right” side. I hope the voters don’t forget this dereliction of duty the next time these guys and girls are up for reelection.
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super dels and the hypocrisy of the Freddie Krueger Barramites
Well the bottom line is that the superdels have a job to do exactly as you said. Be the grownups and put up the person the pluraity wants that has the best chance to win.
I mean winning IS our objective , right? I'm past wondering if it's that of the Obamateur's though.
I don't want to hear the knee-jerks spout one more time that the superdels are "undemocratic" but somehow delegates assigned by skewed leftie caucuses comprising less than 10% of the primary vote in red states that don't have a prayer of being won should some how democratically decide who our candidate is.
it IS time to grow up folks. Past time. Grow up in a hurry or deal with 8 years of John McCain.
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Nonsense
Shooter, most of the public has already spoken
Caucuses skewed with a a handful of lefties in states like Idaho and Vermont is NOT the public.
If you haven't learned that by now over the past 30 years I don't know what to tell you.
and that's assuming there's no "buyer remorse" with folks who have already voted early which I believe there is by all late polls.
Polls more than a week or so old are meaningless .
Learn from history.
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Yep.
"Well the bottom line is that the superdels have a job to do exactly as you said. Be the grownups and put up the person the pluraity wants that has the best chance to win."
I presume you mean Sen. Obama? I agree wholeheartedly. And, don't worry, they will. They've said as much several times over.