Letters to the Editor
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Liars
Is it a requirement that republicans are pathological liars, or are they so isolated in their hubris that they actually believe what they say, clearly they don't listen to themselves when they speak, or is it that they can say whatever they like because they know it won't really be followed up in the mainstream right wing owned press, or do they just get more airtime when they tell lies than when they have to retract what they said, although to answer my own question I haven't heard anyone retract anything, what a bunch of low life's these people are, is this really the best the US has to offer, not the rest of the world, but it's own people, Mugabe sounds more and more like the voice of reason when listening to these people, they make my skin crawl, and my teeth itch.
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Giuliani's bogus premise
Rudy seems to be arguing that his surviving prostate cancer was a good thing!
And would not overall life expectancy be a better measure than a single comparision? In Canada, where us dirty commies spend the day suckling the teat of the state, life expectancy is 79.4 vs 77.1 in America.
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Ah, the benefits of socialized medicine.
Giuliani claims he might not have survived prostate cancer under "socialized medicine," yet he was covered by a government-provided plan.
The fact is, Giuliani survived because of socialized medicine.
The fact is, hundreds and even thousands of right-wing politicians enjoy the benefits of socialized medicine. And they very much seem to be for it. All have availed themselves of the services of socialized medicine when they needed it and none turned it down. Not a single case. Not one.
It should be obvious to anybody that right-wingers are well-paid by their sponsors in the overpriced medical industry to say they're against it, when they're really all for it, because the overpriced medical industry wants to protect their profits and can game the system, just like a lot of other sectors of the economy: the oil cartels, the insurance industry, the banks, the military-industrial complex.
Medical industry: "Your condition is fatal, but only in poor people." Maybe poverty should be considered to be a medical condition.
They've found a legal way to say "Your money or your life", and don't need to use a gun. As usual, the euphemism is "free markets", meaning the freedom to indulge in unregulated rapacity so they may prey on those in need and on those who have no choice.
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my government pays for my healthcare, why doesn't yours?
can someone tell me just what is so bad about government-funded health care? lets say a person has free/ subsidised healthcare. the money they save on healthcare doesn't just go under the mattress- goes to american companies, their kid's college education, their quality of life. it means they get care when they need it, their employer doesn't pay for unneccessary sick days and we don't all sue each other... which would actually decrease the cost of doctors by decreasing their malpractice insurance.
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Oh, good lord
If you can't distinguish between socialized medicine and a free-market system where the government provides insurance to its employees like any other company, then you are officially too short to get on this ride.
Conason is a contemptible liar. He has found an enthusiastic audience here. I wish I could pretend to be surprised.
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England does not equal socialized medicine
Slate did a terrific piece on this not long ago, actually, talking about how the anti-universal coverage folks love to highlight the abysmal cancer survival rates in England. Indeed, it appears, England is some kind of poster child for bad cancer outcomes. Conservatives like to treat England as if it were the only socialized-medicine exemplar because that supports their view, but they ignore that England is a complete outlier. The average survival rate of all other nations with socialized medicine is significantly greater than that of the US.
Basically, using England is a straw argument. So it's bad that Giuliani flubbed his numbers, but I think what he set out to do was even worse!
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Wow, Rudy, you're so awesome
Like so many other Americans, I don't have health insurance right now. Not having health insurance, and unable to afford tests, I'm forgoing a lot of screenings I probably should be having done. Hey, Rudy, with no way to pay for treatment, if I should get diagnosed somewhere down the line here (probably at some later stage of cancer) would you say I'd be better off here, or in Canada or England? Where would my chances of survival be better then? Then again, with the diagnosis coming so late or even too late, would it even really matter where I lived? If it was here, would my deathbed thoughts center around how much worse it might have been if I lived in England?
Glad to see that the Government covered your ass — or prostrate — when you needed it, just as the taxpayers will pick up the tab for your health care if you get elected President. We will do this even though you are far wealthier than most taxpayers and could pay for it yourself. Even though some of us are forgoing tests because we can't afford it, you will probably get tested at least once a year, and then get back to the podium to explain how it would be a total disaster, a national nightmare, ifanyone who isn't you had access to healthcare.
I think worst of all, Rudy, it seems you came back from a brush with death with no perspective, gratitude or spiritual awakening. You seem to have reevaluated nothing and can only think of the same shopworn and useless bromides, and your own unstoppable will to power. Let's see if I hear you right... torture such as waterboarding is variable and open to debate dependent on who's doing the torturing, but national health care is unequivocally bad and immoral, period. End of story; end of debate. National health care is wrong!
When did I wake up in Bizarro World? How do I get back to my home dimension?
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Not just England
I'd just like to point out that Britain's 'socialized' healthcare applies to the whole of the UK, not just England. That is, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Too much to expect Rudy Giuliani to know that either.