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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama's speech on race

Responding to the "divisive turn" the campaign has taken on racial issues, the candidate calls for Americans to "come together and say, 'Not this time.'"

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 09:02 AM

One more thing

And not only is he smart, he's eye-candy. Obama rocks.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:00 AM

TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE...

Yet another hypocritical moment for the Obama campaign. After months of denying that he is black, or partially black, or WHATEVER,refusing to discuss the issue, the only reason he is out there now talking about it IS BECAUSE HE WAS FORCED TO!

EVERY P0LITICAL STRATEGIST WORTH HIS OR HER SALT KNOWS THAT BARACK OBAMA WAS NOT GOING TO DISCUSS RACE IN HIS CAMPAIGN BECAUSE TO DO SO WOULD BE TO LOSE! HIS STRATEGISTS KNEW IT, HE KNEW IT, HIS WIFE KNEW IT, AND SO DID MOST EVERYONE WHO WASN'T STANDING IN LINE TO DRINK HIS KOOL AID.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:39 AM

Ok Obama,

I am finally, really, listening to you.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:31 AM

bumbling pose

Yeah, Obama, former president of the Harvard Law Review, was trying to soft shoe and Tom his way past being very dark beige. Get real. There was always going to be a tipping point. that was yesterday. we've had 43 alleged presidents, every one of them whiter than white. Obama said it himself: this tide is not going to turn on one election or one candidate. But if we don't start, it will never turn. Ever. Guaranteed.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:33 AM

Rambling Rose 22

You see Rose, that is why Obama supporters call you Clinton supporters racist pigs.

If he doesn't adress race he is denying who he is, if he does adress race he is playing the race card.

Whatever happens, Hillary is going to lose in November, and she will not be the candidate in 2012 now. Why? Because the sheer bigotry of her campaign supporters here might beat Obama, but it won't win in the general.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:45 PM

Make up your Mind Obama

I guess Obama thinks he can bring us together by throwing his Black Pastor and his White Grandmother under the same bus. When the Catholic church decided to back Bush in the last two elections we stopped donating to the church and stopped attending on a regular basis. Obama can't have his cake and eat it too.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:49 PM

Obama's Mind

At least he has a mind to make up, and the courage to speak truth. Did you read the speech, "foxy"? He threw no one "under the bus". That's the Klinton way. He criticized himself as much as he criticized either Wright or his grandmother. That's another thing you'll never hear from Billary: self-criticism or apology. I've heard racial comments from my older relatives that would make my hair curl if I had any. Racism has been pandemic in this country. Yesterday's speech was one of the bravest attempts to confront that. What does the Klinton Kamp have to say? Not a damned thing. Pussies.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 07:44 PM

Tom Payne

I love the fact that you thought FXC meant 'foxy'. I have used that moniker for over thirty years so I would hardly qualify. FXC is my Hispanic husbands initials. I read Obama's first book and really loved it. It touched me profoundly. It spoke to me on such a personal level because I have mixed-race kids ----according to most Americans. We never saw our marriage or our kids that way but when they hit the racially mixed public schools they were treated that way. (If you want more history read some of my other posts). I am about a third way through Obama's second book. I have attended a rally of his. I do not vote without making an informed choice. I joined his e-mail and the first item I got from his camp was an invitation to go disrupt a Hillary rally with Obama signs and vocal support. From my perspective I have seen nothing positive from Obama's campaign. Obama posters are nothing but a bunch of Haters, like yourself. I can't believe we pushed aside John Edwards and Denis Kucinich and Richardson for such a conflicted person with no clear image of self. As I said his book touched my profoundly because it resonated the conflict I have seen in my two kids and many of their mixed friends, but that is not enough for me to throw support behind someone I think is a lousy politician. And I bet most the people singing his praises have not taken half the time I have to learn enough about him to make that decision.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 07:45 PM

Tom Payne

Oh, I forgot to say I made a point of watching the speech live.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 09:10 PM

Tom Payne

On second thought I am Mrs.Foxy because my husband is such a FOX. Mr. FXC got a big kick from your suggestion. Got to give you props for creativity. No one has ever suggested Foxy for FXC before and without revealing too much as you never know what kind of nuts are on this site I have used the moniker in some very public ways.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 09:13 PM

It better be a pretty big bus

I guess Obama thinks he can bring us together by throwing his Black Pastor and his White Grandmother under the same bus

What I don't understand is that it looks like Obama is telling the truth. He likes his Grandmother, He likes Rev. Wright.

Should he say he doesn't like his grandmother due to some remarks or say he doesn't like Rev Wright due to some remarks?

Should he deny what both have said, say it never happened?

Why not say that he loves them both, but they are both imperfect, both flawed? Reject their mistakes, but accept them as they are?

Seems to me that's similar to some advice given by some preacher dude I heard about.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 09:56 PM

Ms. FXC

Our family is immersed in wordplay. It's genetic. FXC says foxy to me, and is not meant as any disrespect. On these threads, as is all too readily apparent, my rancor is about what I find to be ignorant or divisive (dee vice sieve, or dee viss ive, whatever). I'm not an aggressor by nature, but this election, I firmly believe, is the most important in my lifetime, and I was born in 1947. Give your husband my best; even better, give him yours! tom

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:05 PM

FXC addendum

Sorry. I only read one of your serial posts. All I know about Obama is what I've heard him and others say through the media, and what he says in his two books. I read a lot; not a much as my wife, who goes through three or four books a week. I do not hate Hillary. I hate injustice, the war in Iraq, the economic chasm between the rich and poor that widens by the day, and the erosion of rights that were alleged to be "unalienable". Edwards was my first choice. I have great respect for richardson, and think he ought to be the VP choice, or perhaps Secretary of State. I do think that, of the two remaining choices, Obama is by far the better of the two. I listen, I read, I decide. I've been wrong before, and will be again. My thoughts, if you can wade through the vitriol to dredge them out, are that the Clinton legacy is one of division, diversion, and capitulation to special interests. Obama is a stretch. So was Lincoln. So was Ike. It's time to get the hell out of the middle of the road and run with someone with a huge upside. If you want to endlessly parse pastor wright's sermons over a twenty year period instead of dealing with the issues at hand, be my guest. Today was the fifth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, which Hillary helped facilitate. She has yet to apologize, as Edwards so eloquently did. If you want to cite character flaws, there's one for you. Bueno suerte.

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