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Tell me, when will Hilary give as moving a speech about feminism as Obama gave about racism?
Fart, meet church. She can give the most eloquent speech on the issue, and people will again dismiss sexism in relation to the campaign.
For the rest of you who are quite angered by the grandmother comments, why don't you address whether her past naive actions be compared to Wright's current beliefs rather than admonishing me for "cherry picking?" This part of the speech was repeated throughout the day, so I don't consider it a minor point.
I do think Obama's heart is in the right place, but Wright is quite deliberately hateful (Hillary may not have been called a n_____, but she has been called a bitch, cunt, etc). Dismissing this concern as one of a "Fox viewer" is rather shortsighted, since I'm on your side.
Then again, it's easy to forget about the frustration of "Fox viewers" until you're faced with them after the nomination.
If Obama is so great and really about change, then why doesn't he decry the Imperial System?
Well, there's a lot going on here, too much for a format such as this.
First off, I think the main problem (alluded to in a prior post of mine) is that most Americans don't think that we have an empire. How can you get rid of something you don't even know you have? How many people know about all the troops we still have in Korea, Okinawa, Germany, etc? Has the fact that we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined really sunk in? I don't think so. I've listened to radio shows where 'experts' deny that we even have an empire at all.
It's like our dependence on Oil. We built that dependence over 100 years, so to think that we can back out in 10 is wishful thinking. I know that every administration after Carter has said, let's wait another 4 years.
Not building long term bases in Iraq will be start of a trend reversal.
who thinks that Obama is somehow antiwar I don't think Obama is antiwar.
I think its reasonable to believe that Obama can be a change candidate without him changing everything. I think it's unreasonable to think he can change everything. I don't see it as all or nothing. I don't see it as saint or fraud either.
Sorry I didn't get to your Israel/Muslim remarks. Suffice to say, there are others building their own empires. It's a long standing human tradition.
While we're all heaping praise on Sen.Obama,you might want to step back a minute and try to remember the purpose of the speech. If the purpose was to make die-hard Obama supporters swoon, well I guess he was great.Unfortunately, in my humble opinion that was not (or shouldn't have been) the ultimate purpose.
Look, Sen. Obama has the nomination.The prize is the general election.What he had to do today was to address the concerns of those that are still on the fence.White males,blue collar workers, Hispanics, the elderly,etc. I'm sorry but today's speech didn't touch these folks in any positive way.On the contrary, it alienated and turned off a great deal of them.
Before this all happened the numbers were scary.At this point in time, with the war,the economy,eight years of republican rule in the White House and a laundry list of other things Sen. Obama was tied with a 71 year old republican. TIED !!!As of today they were the good old days.Sen. Obama's negatives are growing by the day and he is now behind McCain.This Rev. Wright thing is huge and it's not going to go away.Those statements have hit some people hard and the speech did absolutely nothing to make it go away.
White guilt and the old race "okey-doke" works great on the white,educated latte set,but you already had those guys.Where are they gonna go? And again the black base,where are they gonna go?
So you gave your speech and all the pundits will love it and sing it's praises. Ain't that just swell! Meanwhile back at the ranch, old John McCain is sitting back and watching those numbers grow. WAKE UP!!!!! Point your campaign in the right direction.
For Kilroy, andrgyn, and others who criticize Obama's mere speechmaking and his "fawning" supporters:
There is nothing small about finding the words to express the history, the complexity, the nuance of an issue as polarizing as race. People criticized Bill Clinton for his "silver tongue," conflating his communication skills with duplicity. I say fine oratory is evidence of a fine mind.
Obama has tapped into what George Lakoff, the linguist who writes about political speech, calls the "issues" that most Americans care about. Judgment, and trust, and intelligence, and discernment--those are real, actual, honest-to-goodness issues. Those are the reasons many of us want Obama to be the next President.
I just came from the memorial for Eve Carson, our UNC student body president who was murdered two weeks ago--there must have been 15,000 people filling the basketball arena. I couldn't help but draw parallels between Eve's life of service and dedication to those less privleged, and Obama's story about Ashley. I've had the privilege of being inspired and deeply moved twice in one day. I'm finally convinced--Obama is the person we've been waiting for to move this country forward and rescue us from our long Bush administration nightmare. He will inspire the Eve's and Ashley's--black and white--of this world.
What are you? A six year old political scientist? Such seasoned perspectives! Really man, you're really making a case for the rabid reality that you really are raving mad. Don't bust a blood vessel bud!
This guy is a user. He was raised white. Got into a radical black church to get credibility as black, married a black woman to gain more credibility, used them to get into politics to satisfy his ambitions. Now that he's done with the reverend, throws him in front of the bus. He even used his grandmother for goodness sakes. Now everybody knows she's a racist. Thank you sonny!!!
Even his drug usage had something to do with being black... baloney!!! He just wted to get high.
After the cokehead Bush, the last thing we need is another cokehead at the White House.