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Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:00 AM

Different general, different war, same words: Westmoreland on Vietnam, Petraeus on Iraq

The full transcript of Gen. William Westmoreland's Nov. 19, 1967, appearance on "Meet the Press" to discuss progress in Vietnam.

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Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:19 PM

Worse than Westmoreland

At least Westmoreland didn't divert 191,000 arms to the Viet Cong.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 02:40 PM

Echoes of Vietnam indeed!

During the American victory during the Tet Offensive Walter Cronkite “reported” "we are mired in stalemate” and that "the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors.”

Sen. Harry Reid says about Iraq "The war is lost".

Sen. Kerry then called American troops barbarians reminiscent of Ghangis Khan, then recently he called them terrorists. Sen. Durbin compared them to Nazis.

Echoes of Vietnm indeed!

Thursday, September 13, 2007 09:29 AM

salt peanuts salt peanuts

Today's imminent 15-minute look-down-his-snoot from our fearless leader has me in mind of another Vietnam-era quote, this one from Henry the K:

Withdrawal of U.S. troops will become like salted peanuts to the American public: The more U.S. troops come home, the more will be demanded. This could eventually result, in effect, in demands for unilateral withdrawal—perhaps within a year.

From the "salted peanuts memo" of 1969.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 09:08 AM

Another Echo

As per The Daily Show, it appears the the General has been echoing Bush as well. Despite his claim that he wrote his report himself.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 05:55 AM

Fixed

We've fixed the problem. Sorry about that, everyone, and thanks for the heads up.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 04:35 AM

Um.

Very short paragraphs.

Maybe it's me, but none of the content of this piece is showing up on my browser aside from the links to the next empty page(s) and the ubiquitous ads.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 03:23 AM

Please fix the problem -- this cannot be read

Will SOMEBODY please fix the problem? No page after page one can be read.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 01:59 AM

It's a bug in the website code

The transcript is a series of images and someone's forgot to release the permissions on them:

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:21 AM

Westy and Petraeus? An apt comparison.

I was unable to read the Salon.com posted transcript either, but I can guess what it said.

It should be noted that in 1967, Senate Democrats with the exception of Ernst Gruening and party-switcher Wayne Morse, had as much difficulty standing up to Lyndon Johnson as Republicans do to Bush today. Both were defeated for their reelection efforts in 1968.

I did, however, respond to a Kansas right wing blog before the Salon comments appeared. The blog urged Democrats to denounce the ad. Here's my snipped remarks as follows:

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In An Khe, Viet Nam on New Years Day 1968, I was reading similar “statistics” and “projections” in the Christmas issue of U.S. News and World Report, with Westmoreland’s famous fabrications printed as “news.” The problem was, I knew most of the “facts” printed therein were untrue and the rest was spin. I’d often seen the dead American bodies where the story claimed there were none, for instance. I wrote back and told the editors giving very specific detail that they’d been duped. I even wrote that I expected a major offensive would be inaugurated shortly. I never got a response. Thirty days later the Tet Offensive began.

History has judged that Westy betrayed us. I expect Petraeus may see the same fate.

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:34 PM

still broken

Hello? anybody home?

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:04 PM

Oldies but Goodies

If you like that, take a look at Quotations from Chairman LBJ or (for an even broader historical perspective) From the Jaws of Victory, both Vietnam-era classics that are now probably out of print but worth the read.

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 08:39 PM

Yep ...

... something is quite definitely borked. (That's when it's so broken, you can't spell the word right.)

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 08:26 PM

It's not

I can't see anything either.

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 08:20 PM

Hope it's just me :(

I can't see anything but page 1. And as a history junkie I am sad!

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