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Monday, November 2, 2009 12:00 AM

Al Gore: "I am optimistic"

In an interview, the Nobel winner and former vice-president talks about how to save the world

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Monday, November 2, 2009 09:55 AM

Wow

My God. Is there anything more tedious than an Algore interview? Will that guy PLEASE just go away already?

Monday, November 2, 2009 10:11 AM

Saving industrialism

Can we please, please quit talking about saving the planet?

The earth has been revolving around Sol some 3.5 billion years. We H. sapiens have only been able to spell our name for some 5 thousand. The planet did fine without us before we came, and it will do fine without us after we leave.

What we are really talking about saving is the scientific/industrial/technological way of life that started a couple of centuries ago, Sir Isaac Newton being a good a corner post as any.

Until we solve the problem of the massive and continuing overpopulation that science, industry and technology has made possible, all the temporary patches will do is put off the inevitable, and make sure that there are more billions of your children lined up for the massive die-off.

Monday, November 2, 2009 10:46 AM

Yiddishisms

Sometimes the language of Yiddish is the most expressive. I want to be a "nudge" in Copenhagen.

I don't want to be a noodge but you should learn how to spell your Yiddishisms!

Monday, November 2, 2009 10:59 AM

"The climate, financial and national security crises are all connected. They share the same cause: Our absurd dependency on foreign oil."

Al Gore says "national security crises" and I say "war" but whatever--he's 100% right.

And so we know where the focus should be--ending our personal and societal dependency on oil.

Monday, November 2, 2009 11:05 AM

@ramsees

I actually find him to be intelligent and insightful, especially for a politician (or former politician). He seems to have a firm grasp on the subject, and doesn't just bloviate like maybe you are accustomed to on Fox.

Perhaps the problem is with you. You don't want to hear that climate change is a problem, so you denigrate the spokesman. Just food for thought.

Monday, November 2, 2009 11:23 AM

@Ramesees

Is there anything more tedious than an Algore interview?

Indeed there is: right-wing rants about the subject, complete with the childish use of "Algore" as an insult.

Monday, November 2, 2009 11:40 AM

Is there anything more tedious than ...

trying over and over agoan to open the rest of an Al Gore interview?

Thanks "New Look" Salon!

Monday, November 2, 2009 11:41 AM

agoan, a groan, again.

Oops, sorry.

Monday, November 2, 2009 12:13 PM

@Silverback

Want to curb population growth? Works towards things like a global minimum wage and gender equality and access to birth control. Giving people the basics of survival and women their freedom are the two biggest factors that contribute to a naturally curbed population growth.

At the same time, developed countries need to end their hogging of the world's resources, and work towards their own sustainability. We need to retain being a developed country, but use the resources of an undeveloped one. It's very possible to do, it just takes the will to do it.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:19 PM

Cardboard cutout

Masquerading as a human being.

He's a phony. Perhaps one day his assHoliness will be genuine . . . somehow one doubts that is possible for him.

F You Al.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:51 PM

The way Al Gore lives

How anyone can look at Gore's lifestyle and not find him to be a huge stinking hypocrite is beyond me. I am pretty sure I am about 10000 times more "green" than Al Gore and I'm not even convinced that global warming is an issue (though I do believe strongly in sustainability and getting back to a more humble way of life.)

When someone truly believes something, they don't just going around preaching to everyone else to change their ways, they LIVE IT. Gore is a big phony.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:57 PM

@What the???

"Want to curb population growth? Works towards things like a global minimum wage and gender equality and access to birth control. Giving people the basics of survival and women their freedom are the two biggest factors that contribute to a naturally curbed population growth."

Sounds to me like you're advocating a massive world war. Otherwise, your "solution" is a total fantasy which will never happen.

"At the same time, developed countries need to end their hogging of the world's resources, and work towards their own sustainability. We need to retain being a developed country, but use the resources of an undeveloped one. It's very possible to do, it just takes the will to do it."

Ah, it's clearer now. A massive total world war where the West would be the victor followed by good, old-fashioned imperialism. Can you think of any other _possible_ way your scenario would become reality?

Somehow, I don't think subjugating half of the world is the answer. Of course, I don't believe in the question, the point of the interview, in the first place. The very term, "Save the planet." is ludicrous and has no basis, whatsoever, in fact.

Monday, November 2, 2009 02:33 PM

@traumatic

What I'm talking about is the OPPOSITE of war, subjugation, and imperialism, which should be obvious, but conservatives seem to invariably live in Bizzaro World where up is down.

Supporting global labor movements, equality of women, etc. is removing the imperialism of the West out of the third world. We are the biggest reason their wages are so low (via petrodollar hegemony, various predatory "free trade" agreements and "structural adjustment aid" programs). The places where women have the least rights in the world are the places where imperialism has historically been the strongest, the most extreme where imperialism is the most alive and well today.

In fact, those countries with the lowest levels of female access to power are the former colonies of the imperial powers

http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/2/2/9/0/pages22905/p22905-1.php

Likewise, with the technology we have now, it is very possible for us to use a tiny fraction of the resources that we do and still live modern lives. The fact that we don't and waste so much is inherently tied to imperialism--we basically force others into a multi-faceted unequal trade arrangement where we become a huge vacuum wasting (not just using) far more than we need while others have to go without.

So, yes. Without our imperialism, we could easily become sustainable and self-sufficient, and better off for it.

Monday, November 2, 2009 02:53 PM

What the?

Female power? You mean like the Arab world?

I guess there are Arschlecker everywhere

Monday, November 2, 2009 03:23 PM

@gedicht

The Arab world is the perfect example of how imperialism has undermined women's rights. Prior to the U.S. (and Russia as well in the case of Afghanistan) meddling in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, those countries were at various stages of development and prosperity and even secularism, women's positions were similar to their counterparts in the West.

Our undermining, bombing, killing them is obviously directly responsible for the lack of development, prosperity, etc. we see now, and extensive research has shown that the history of imperialism in the whole area is directly responsible for a general lag time in social progress, as has been demonstrated in nearly every other prior colony.

I guess there are Arschlecker everywhere

You just think that cause you keep seeing your own reflection.

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