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Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:00 AM

Sex scandals are bipartisan

But it's Republicans who are prone to preaching about other people's intimate lives

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 08:43 PM

SoberInput (least appropriate screen neam ever!)

A little advise: People who are comfortable with their sexuality don't spend their lives obsessed with gays.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009 08:51 PM

Do as I say...

Marital infidelity by elected figures is only an issue when the politician makes "family values" and the "sanctity of marriage" a cornerstone of their political ideology.  Nothing devalues a politician more than sanctimonious rhetoric once they have been caught with their pants down.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009 09:28 PM

If only people would just tolerate drunk drivers

Then they'd all be dead. What a plan! Well, it seems your scheme against homosexuals is working.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009 09:30 PM

People obsessed with homosexuality, whatever...

Tell it to Salon.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:07 PM

Yes because drunk driving

is just like homosexuality.

Fucking jackass.

Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:25 PM

Republicans Are Closer To God

Republicans, meaning the religious conservative ones, are closer to God and this is apparent due to their quoting stories told and handed down through generations telling us what God did and why He did it.

Of course, none of these present-day folks have first-hand experience hearing what God is saying but repeating ancient, unfounded stories is apparently good enough. God help us if these folks serve on juries.

When a Republican breaks a moral law, other Republicans immediately search out similar transgressions done by Democrats, and this provides a great deal of comfort for the Republicans.

Because, the Republicans' moral code concerns itself more with what the other person is doing.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:06 AM

Blame the Dem -- but condemn the entire Republican party

History has taught us how Dems handle testosterone problems.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:08 AM

Buy him a gross of Day-Glo condoms

so he doesn't catch anything below the equator.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:10 AM

He should be given a one-way ticket to Argentina

and please use some of that stimulus money.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:13 AM

Maybe he'll learn governing techniques from the Perons

after a Democrat-sponsored charity seance featuring hyperinflation.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 01:38 AM

@vasumurti

>>My problem really isn't with Christians unable to follow Paul, but with the hypocrisy of saying "I believe," and then ignoring the rest of what their religion dictates when it suits them. Why not just be secular, like everyone else?<<

Excellent point. Among the born again, "Christianity" means whatever they say it does while they go on to do whatever they darn well choose. I guess that's part of the appeal, unlike orthodox Judaism and Islam, where there are strict rules that have to be followed. As the saying goes, "the problem with being born again is that most people are born again as themselves."

Thursday, July 2, 2009 02:39 AM

Misleading quotes

@vasumurti

Your points are well-made, but you're falling into the same trap as so many others. You take a 1st century Greek text and apply the vocabulary and constructs of 21st century America to it.

There wasn't a word "homosexuality" until the mid-1800s. So no properly translated text would include this word; typically, the original text would include a sexual act or type of relationship. In this case, there is not an exact match. Experts think it might mean a man who takes advantages of young men or a male prostitute. Huge difference from just homosexual.

I suppose that living in a secular society that wants to play religious, no one actually bothers to read the Bible and know what they're condemning.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 03:26 AM

@SoberInput

>>The article seems to suggest that everything would be all better if talk against adultery would cease. Let's apply that to the liberal religion. Maybe "discrimination" against gays would stop if liberals would stop preaching against it.<<

Yes, of course! Now that you mention it, homophobia is obviously THE EXACT SAME THING as adultery. Thanks for the clarification!

Thursday, July 2, 2009 03:55 AM

hypocrisy

Amen to Gene. It is the rank hypocrisy alone that disturbs many of us. How can you claim Christian theology as an inspiration, when you ignore the red lettered words in the Bible? Didn't Jesus refer to removing the "mote from thine own eye" and "not casting the first stone"? As for Paul, while he popularized a certain version of the Jesus movement, his intolerant views were not representative of all who would claim Jesus as a teacher. If you go back to older sayings gospels, like Thomas or Q, the emphasis was on personal conduct, not judgmentalism.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 04:03 AM

Forgiveness should be given freely...

But the Public Trust needs to be earned. I don't care if your a Democrat (Spitzer, Clinton) or a Republican. If you can cheat on your spouse, you can easily cheat the public. That's why officials who commit adultery should resign.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 04:55 AM

STFU!

Democrats don't preach, they SCOLD, LECTURE and POINT FINGERS .

Hey, I think there is room in the panties that Alex Koppelman is diving into - perhaps he would like some company.

Both parties are filed with looneytoons.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 05:03 AM

YESSS!!!

I have always felt somewhat uncomfortable about my personal, liberal opinion that somehow liberals had it right concerning public and political statements and actions involving moral issues but I couldn't nail down why.

Now, Gene, I think you may have nailed this thing. I believe you did so without even my reading the article (yet, I will) or the comments (yet, I will).

The nailing turns out to be so simple, doesn't it? It was right in my face...the hypocracy of the 'right's' statements. Yet the headline and subheadline says it all, don't it? In two statements.

Liberals are truthful and realistic. The others aren't.

Truth and reality are hard pills to swallow and only wise/mature members of the human race can accept/endure/withstand the side effects.

Thank you, Mr. Lyons

Thursday, July 2, 2009 05:09 AM

@SoberInput

How much of the day do you spend thinking about gay men and the things they do with one another?

Thursday, July 2, 2009 05:27 AM

Gene you're missing the point

"Cheating" on you wife is banal.

Leaving you post as Governor of a U.S. state without notifying anyone to fly off to Argentina for a little trim is off the charts crazy. The man doesn't deserve to be dog catcher much less governor.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 05:38 AM

@stinky

specific examples please of democrats scolding and pointing fingers in regard to adultery.

Thursday, July 2, 2009 05:40 AM

Sex & Taxes

Editor: Predictably, Gene Lyon's column suggests hypocrisy aimed at the Republicans with a grudging nod to "Democratic sex scandals".

If one is to talk about moral hypocrisy, certainly it's fair game to talk about the disconnect between Republican rhetoric and their sad and sorry sex scandals. But, on the other side of the aisle, there's far more damaging moral hypocrisy that actually has an impact on Americans, of all political stripes.

We've been told, by no less than the Vice President, that paying taxes if a patriotic duty. We've been lectured time and time again by Democratic leaders about how the rich don't pay "their fair share" and that those who are opposed to paying higher taxes are just plain selfish and somehow, un-American.

How many current members of the Obama administration have ducked this patriotic duty and only coughed up the dough when faced with confirmation hearings? How many Democratic leaders of Congress have fudged on their returns or blatantly lied on them to avoid paying their "fair share"? The list is seemingly endless and yet, I don't recall a column written by Mr. Lyon's (or anyone else at Salon for that matter), excoriating these shining lights of moral rectitude for saying one thing while doing another.

Democrats use taxes as a weapon, rewarding behavior they approve of while punishing the job creators in this country. I would prefer a sex scandal, which harms no one but the immediate family, anyday of the week over preachy politicians that talk about the nobility of taxation while avoiding their own.

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