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Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:00 AM

O'Reilly's campaign against murdered doctor

The Fox News star had compared Tiller to a Nazi, called him a "baby killer," and warned of "Judgment Day"

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 08:08 AM

Silence of the Ham!

If O'Reily, the colossal ham, ever had to make a decision which involved life or death, he would fail as he knows nothing of a Woman's Constitutional Right to Choose. This enpty minded blow hole remains a wound on the fabric of American intelligence and Law.

His vicioius and malacioius attacks on a legal, medical practice,performed by a physician, in a safe, clean clinic, proves his ignorance and illustrates his hate speech. Obviously, not he or any member of his family, has ever faced such an excrutiating decision - The life of the mother or the life of the unborn?

This choice belongs to the woman period. Legal and safe a ortion is the Law of the Land in the USA. Keep your laws off my body! And Keep your mouth shut! You have absolutely no knwledfe or sensitivity to the reality of these casses. Your uninformed, and flipant suggestiions that women choose an abortion on any given day for any flimsy reason is complete farse!

The courts mustpursue and prosecute your use of incindiary hate speech, funded by Fox and spewed you.

You are wrong, & you are a liar, You have created a body of lies and misformation which has directly resulted in death and you should be held accountable. If ever there comes a time for silence - it is now you overrated media Ham! Go away and go quickly! And when the day of reckoning finally comes,may Dr. Tiller be the gate keeper and then let's see what you have to say!

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 08:34 AM

I really hope OReilly sticks to his guns

Everything he said about Tiller was correct. This just comes down to the age old argument of prolife/choice. If you are prochoice, humor me for one second. Just for ONE SECOND, imagine we are right. That the baby in the womb is actually alive. Would it then make sense to condemn the doctors actions?? Now you can go back to believing it is a piece of tissue.

The point is that it is perfectly acceptable to compare the guy to a nazi if you believe the baby is alive. If it's just tissue, then it makes no sense. So until we can all agree on something, you just have see things from others point of view.

No prolife believer wished death on this man....as that would be the opposite of prolife. But I would imagine no one is losing sleep over it because he was a baby killer.

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 08:49 AM

@ anynamewilldo

"The point is that it is perfectly acceptable to compare the guy to a nazi if you believe the baby is alive."

You've got a big misconception there. You're assuming that pro-choice folks don't believe that an embryo/fetus/pre-birth-"baby" is not ALIVE.

That's stupid as hell. Dude, even a blood cell is "alive." An amoeba is alive. Sperm cells are alive, and so are ova. Our skin teems with life, which we destroy every day with our anti-bacterial soaps. (I have my doubts that viruses are alive, but let's not get too far afield.)

Dig this: I totally AGREE with you that the embryo/fetus/prebirth baby is ALIVE. And I don't think for a second that embryo/fetus/prebirth-baby has the right to force a woman to give birth.

If you argue the wrong point, you'll never convince anyone of the righteousness of your views.

How would you construct an argument that embryos/fetuses/prebirth-babies should have the legally-enforced *right* to force women to give birth to them?

I'd really like to hear that one. I don't think I've ever seen that argued before.

"No prolife believer wished death on this man."

Who are you to speak for every single prolife believer on Earth? And do you really know Scott Roeder well enough to be implying that he's a liar?

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 09:26 AM

Let he who has no sin cast the first stone

If I may be as bold as Bill O'Reilly, there is such thing as Judgment Day. This is the most threatening ideas in our thinking because we do not understand it. On Page 34 and 35 of "A Course in Miracles" the Last Judgment is a final healing rather than a meting out of punishment, however much you may think punishment is deserved. The Last Judgment might be called a process of right evaluation. The term is frightening not only because it has been projected onto God, but also because of the association of "last" with death. If the meaning of Last Judgment is objectively examined, this term is really the doorway to life. No one who lives in fear is really alive. Your own last judgment cannot be directed toward yourself because you are not your own creation. Our Father, who created us all and loves us unconditionally, has already forgiven us. Everyone on earth is here learning lessons and events in our lives have been planned out before our soul incarnated into our physical body at birth. Visit www.courageoussouls.com to learn more about reincarnation and planning our lives on earth. No one has the right to say what is right or wrong about what other people have done as those are judgments based upon our own life perceptions. Murder is murder no matter if its an unborn infant or a live human being They both violate God's Ten Commandments.

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 09:55 AM

O'Reilly and the Brownshirts

An excellent article which does a lot to prove that O'Reilly has more than a passing responsability in the murder of Tiller.

O'Reilly usually shows his brash overbearing style by constantly interrupting those guests who he personally disagrees with. He shows no respect for opposing arguements and resorts to interruption and shouting down--those time honoured tactics of the pre war Brownshirts who broke up meetings whenever opposing views were expressed.

O'Reilly! Hang your head in shame. I wonder how you'll sleep tonight.

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:08 AM

It's futile . . . .

to try to reason with all too many "pro-lifers". They are completely incapable of seeing outside of their little box.

Nothing we say here or elsewhere will change their minds. We just need to make sure laws are enforced and public opinion -- for those who actually will listen to reason -- moves in the healthiest direction for this country.

We need to make sure we go after organizations and media outlets that promote, support or encourage violence. We need to do our best to stop violence in America, period.

. . . .

Strange. The assumption that "birth" and "life" is the automatic choice for the "unborn". In reality, no human being asked to be born. We never had a choice in the matter. We had no say in the matter. Zero. Someone else had total and complete control over that and never asked us. It was forced upon us. All of us. "Freedom"? Perhaps, given the fact that "life" is quite miserable for billions of human beings, given the fact that billions suffer every single day of their lives, it should NOT be assumed that the default choice would be to elect "life".

Billions of human beings have spent their entire lives in obscene pain, have undergone obscene hardship and misery. For the vast majority of human history, the majority has lived under vile conditions and has suffered mightily.

Tiller performed abortions almost exclusively to protect the life of the mother. A person who had decided she actually wanted to live. Her choice. In almost every single case, if the life of the mother was not at risk, her health was. It was also just about always a factor that the fetus, if it were actually to be born, would have come into the world incredibly damaged, in immense pain and would have suffered for however long it lived.

If the "unborn" could be cognizant of its future reality of endless pain and misery, it's highly unlikely it would choose "life". When there is no medical cure for the damaged fetus, it strikes me as the height of irrational cruelty to force its birth -- again, often at the risk of the mother who has chosen to live.

But, because "pro-lifers" have it in their heads that Tiller killed wantonly, they'll never bother to look at the facts or circumstances. Their minds are made up. A steel trap, shut tight. Judging from many of the comments here and in other threads on the issue, there is really no point in discussing this with them. They are unreachable.

Again, it's our job to fight hard for laws to be enforced and for violent groups to be broken up, locked up, etc. It's our job to rein in all media and all public figures who promote violence. We have that right and responsibility.

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