Brilliant post. I particularly liked this conclusion:

but it may at least help us distinguish our Soggys from our Stinks from our Bishops.

From what I can tell, Soggy and the Bishop are straight-up anti-semites, much like my dad who also reads the same stuff and has the same arguments to explain how it was that the jews made up the holocaust.

Stinks, on the other hand, is an ardent conspiracy theorist, and as his name suggests, he believes across the board that a conspiracy is afoot. Holocaust, 9/11, JFK, chem trials, you name it. It doesn't sound like he's anti-semitic at all, but simply unglued due to the distrust inspired by our mainstream mouthpieces.

I think the Holocaust is true, but greatly fictionalized in order to JUSTIFY, the current problem in the mideast.

I did believe the whole thing, the official story, Now I realize that someone took the facts and changed them to suit their purposes. When people complain about their people being murdered and then claim to be justified in murdering other people they lose my sympathy and understanding. They also make me question everything they say in regards to that lie, contradiction or hypocrisy. The manner in which they respond to question also raises a red flag because if it is true, you don't have to get hysterical and crazy about it, but if it is a LIE and you know it, you DO have to get hysterical and crazy about it. Their reaction, words and behavior is far more damning and revealing than the facts or the logic.

Al I see are a a bunch of goddamned Nazis who are clever enough to realize that the Swastika has a bad rap and is indefensible so they switched to the Star of David because NO ONE WOULD DARE CHALLENGE A NAZI with a MOGEN DAVID - NO SIREEE!

Well it don't work with me. Hollywood taught me to hate Nazis and SO I DO.

GO AHEAD and HIDE behind a Magical Symbol from the middle ages adopted by Judaism as a religious symbol. Yeah, I have a copy of the Seal of Solomon. Nothing to do with the ancient Hebrews.

BTW the Cross? Would Jesus really want to come back and see all of his followers wearing a souvenir toy of the instrument of his torture and death?

These Mosaic religions are sick.

KILL KILL KILL your fellow man.

Well, you are not suffering from schizophrenia, we just have a difference of opinion and not an inability to parse and comprehend.

Conspiracies are how things get done - three of more people get together and plan something for their benefit which is clandestine happens all the time, we just are not permitted to think that the rich and powerful are capable of what any kids selling crack do for a living.

I plan and carry out conspiracies - big ones. I was recruited for a real MF in 1997 but I really didn't like Gore, so the rest is history . . .

It was not the Second Vatican Council that emptied the churches. It was the fact that after Pope John died the priciples of the Second Vatican Council were never carried out fully. People my age left the church for that reason.

2.The church will not lift it's rediulous opposition to contraception, which the majority of Catholics now ignore.

2. The church will not allow womne to become preosts.

3. The church will not allow preists to marry.

4. The Gays Right movment, allowed those who sught refuge in the priesthood and nunnary to be free.

5. The Divorced still cannot remarry wihtout excommunication.

6. children were molested.

The German Nazi eere so efficent, they kept detailed ron the building of Auschwitz, other camps, the gas ovens, nd lsit of people they murdered. The Nuremburg tirals of Adof Eichman are avialbe to review, start there. My God Russian and U.S soldiers took pciture of the camps when they found them. Anyone who could deny this is a neo nazi or has been living in a cave.

attention! The Amish have a good solution: Shunning. This is certainly an acceptable response to this creep.

And why is this guy getting more attention than our present-day war criminals? We don't need no Ca-ah-Missions...We don't need no thought control...The evidence is in full view! For shame on us if another country beats us to indictments!

"My point is not to deny the existence of anti-semitism, but to suggest that holocaust "denial" can indeed be a misnomer (or at least an oversimplification). Sometimes it's denial in the psychological sense, sometimes it's cynical and strategic, and sometimes it's just plain crazy. That doesn't make those who hold these opinions any less worthy of disdain, but it may at least help us distinguish our Soggys from our Stinks from our Bishops."

Once you realize that you have been lied to and lied to systematically and for a purpose, it is not crazy to be skeptical. It is lazy, cowardly and stupid to continue believing and parroting the lie.

I should take disdain from a stereotyper and bigot to the bank as a double good plus plus.

You know those are windmills and not monsters.

Now I am a quest hater, huh?

Why are we surprised that the Pope (a former member of the Nazi Party) has allowed a anti-semite back into the fold? The Catholic Church - institutional denial of pedophilia and molestation - now gives us another winner. Par for the course.

Conspiracies are how things get done - three of more people get together and plan something for their benefit which is clandestine happens all the time

This hits the crux of our disagreement. I acknowledge that conspiracies are common, however they don't happen all the time. Your assumption seems to be that whenever the explanation for something includes a conspiracy, that's the explanation you believe.

I plan and carry out conspiracies - big ones.

Um...okay. I know some guys buy sports cars for this purpose but you've chosen conspiracies. Interesting.

"Catholicism"/"Truth" = oxymoron. Emphasis for Williamson on "moron".

(With apologies to relatively enlightened Catholics. There is always some light in all faiths. Any religion which consistently changes its doctrine according to political votes has a very strange streak, not to mention its terribly abusive history.)