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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:00 AM

"I will not travel to Auschwitz"

Catholic bishop Richard Williamson says he is willing to "review the historical evidence" about whether the Holocaust occurred, but rejects the suggestion that he visit a concentration camp.

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:12 PM

The First Holocaust ....

"The First Holocaust - Jewish Fundraising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During World War One" by Don Heddesheimer is fully documented with reprints of articles from the NYT and Jewish press published during WW ONE. The Jews were claiming that the Nazis killed six million during WW I. Read the reviews on Amazon.com

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:16 PM

Jewish Eyewitnesses .....

John Demjanjuk was extradited from the US and tried as "Ivan the Terrible" of Treblinka. He was identified by five Jewish eyewitnesses as Ivan. He was convicted and sentenced to death. As it turned out, fraudulent documents were used to extradite Demjanjuk, and after the involvement of several US politicians, he was freed. He had never set foot in Treblinka. Google it. The Jewish eyewitnesses were degenerate liars.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:16 PM

THough I do agree about Dachau

Not an extermination camp. People lived in horrible conditions, died in droves from disease, neglect, starvation, abuse and so forth. People were shot, tortured, treated like animals. And it was pretty fucking awful. But Shaggy's right, no organized mass factory style executions happened at Dachau.

But so, so many people there died, all as a direct result of the Nazi policies towards the Jews and others. Its not clear to me why it matters that there wasn't an assembly line of death here, once again, the people are still dead.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:19 PM

Hutman

Really, are you that blind? Stinks isn't having a legit disagreement, he's making up strawman arguments and lying about what people say, just like he does with every one of his tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

Every one of Saggy's lies have been debunked in detail, but he persists with them.

These guys are not honest brokers with a legitimate dispute, they're congenital liars who ignore all evidence that doesn't fit their predefined reality, and this is not the first time it has come up. See this letters section from the previous article for proof: http://letters.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/01/29/antisemitism/view/?show=all

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:20 PM

The Bad Arolsen archives ....

@GLohman

We do not know how many died. The records show that the number that died at Auschwitz is on the order of 100,000, the Museum has the records, you can google the summary.

However, the records that would tell us how many died in the camps captured by the US/Brits HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET since the end of the war.

The six million figure is pure phantasmagoria.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:20 PM

Zyclon B

No, the Nazis were not humanitarians. Typhus was a real problem and highly contagious. Nazis didn't want to get sick from the same disease that was killing their prisoners.

Did Anne Frank die from being gassed, shot or from typhus?

If you are intending to exterminate people, you don't need camps, barbed wire, barracks and guards. Our central American Death Squads didn't need them, Pol Pot didn't need them, Rwanda didn't need them, the Inquisition didn't need them and the Crusaders didn't need them. They were concentration camps and slave labor camps and a lot of people died there and a lot of people were murdered there.

If the terribly efficient and cold blooded Nazis had the intent to kill all the Jews, they certainly did a half-assed job of it and left a lot of survivors. How come?

One subhuman here thinks that there is a big difference in killing for one purpose and killing for another purpose - I say it doesn't matter to the victim, for they are just as murdered either way. If this "thing" thinks that killing one way for some abstract and false reason is preferable to killing another way for another abstract and false reason.

We have been taught that millions were gassed and then cremated so as to destroy the evidence. There are only 8260 hours in a year. It takes about 3 hours to cremate a body. To cremate a million bodies would take 3,000,000 man-hours and 3,000,000, hours of fuel burning to do the job. In five years there are 43,800 hours. In order to cremate a million bodies would require 68.5 crematoriums running 24/7 for 5 years. These camps did not have enough crematoriums and Nazi Germany was facing extreme fuel shortages while fighting the war plus people had to have fuel to keep warm. What everyone else and I have been taught seems more like exaggeration than facts.

Plus all of the Holocaust Keepers of the Flame have proved to be outrageous liars when it comes to Palestine, the Palestinians, our foreign policy, their foreign policy, our news media and our entertainment fare and if we are to believe these SAME people, we must also accept that Palestinians have no right to exist at all and that killing them is a good thing.

You want me to believe your tall tales, don't be so sloppy with your lies and don't make yourselves look like the people you want me to hate.

IT IS CALLED THE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME YOU HAVE BECOME THAT WHICH YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BECOME.

Insane and batshiat crazy are you.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:23 PM

*What* is this...

asshole's problem?

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:25 PM

Here's just one example of Saggy's many lies

No one claimed a holocaust after WWI.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/wwi-holocaust-01.html

He's been shown the truth many times and just ignores it. Also, ask him about Eichmann. He never has an answer for that one.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:26 PM

Josef Kramer of Belsen ...

The commandant of Belsen was Josef Kramer, his correspondence showing that he did everything in his power to prevent the catastrophe at Belsen was captured and can be googled.

The situation was remarkable to that at Andersonville at the end of the US civil war. The commandant was Henry Wirz, he did everything he could to prevent the catastrophe, but, he was tried and convicted in a hoax trial and hanged! Just like Kramer. Google the trial. Phony witnesses, nothing but lies. Now acknowledged by most. This was the first "War Crimes Trial", a fitting precedent for Nuremberg.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 03:29 PM

@Saggy

I was always skeptical about the infallibility of the Demanjuk case, if only because I find the idea of being able to positively identify someone 50 years later to be dubious at best. I don't know whether he was guilty or not.

But it is utterly irrelevant to the fact of the Holocaust in general. Bringing it up is really bizarre. I don't know what your point is. Do you have one?

As for your claim that Jews were saying the Nazis killed 6 million Jews during WWI, that's pretty hard to believe. The Nazis didn't exist in WWI. They were formed in 1919, and WWI ended in 1918. Whoever made the claim you cite is an idiot. How much of the information you cite comes from idiots, anyway? Just curious. Do you have any credible sources, or just charlatans?

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