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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:00 AM

"I will not travel to Auschwitz"

Catholic bishop Richard Williamson says he is willing to "review the historical evidence" about whether the Holocaust occurred, but rejects the suggestion that he visit a concentration camp.

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:30 PM

@Gordon Wagner

Gordon Hussein Wagner.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:31 PM

My dear tele_dan,

I don't deny that. Why do you deny the Catholics, the Poles, the Russians, the Communists, the trade unionists, the anarchists, the Jehovah's Witnesses and ANYONE who dareed to speak up against them?

I suspect that you deny a lot more than I do. Gassing people is scary and terrifying, but with commercial delouser in ordinary rooms just is not practical, not efficient and not believable. Jim Jones had success with cyanide laced Kool-Aid - there are just too many easier wasy to kill people than with a what amounts to a bug fogger.

Next time you want to kill a bunch of people, get yourself as many insect foggers as you can and see how well it goes.

Terrible things happened and then part of that was turned into a product to sell and it was hyped at the exclusion of the rest of the terrible things.

The bad thing is that those terrible things are all to commonplace throughout history - read Numbers Chapter 31.

The population of Iraq has been reduced by five million - happy now? Guess who is buying land for some colonies around some holy sites?

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:35 PM

My dear Renegade Iconoclast,

Not one lie or untruth.

Sure, your lie is much bigger and much better, only one poeple suffered at the hands of the Nazis and only one people were victims in WW II and the world owes them big time.

Tell a big enough lie . . .

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:37 PM

My Dear Stinky

Before prattling on about nazi death comps again, YOU should visit one of them, if only to save yourself from looking like a fool. I've been to Dachau, and for that reason I know that most of what you said is nonsense.

He will see that the plaque stating that 4 milion were murdered has been replaced with a plaque that says 1.5 million murdered and he will see that those rooms designated as "gas chambers" are not.

The rooms designated as gas chambers are not? Interesting fact-free claim to pull out of your ass on a fine Wednesday. Meanwhile, had you actually, you know, visited one of these camps instead of simply reading some crackpot conspiracy ideas about them, you would know that the gas chambers are indeed real.

As for Holocaust denial, if you state that not only Jews were victims of the Holocaust, that qualifies you as being a Holocaust denier and a Jew-Hater to boot. So unless you deny everyone else who was a victim of the Nazis you are a Holocaust denier.

Again, completely untrue. At Dachau, there was a lot of attention paid to the gypsies, communists and others who were also killed in the Holocaust.

Education yourself before you hold forth.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:44 PM

Who cares

Believing the holocaust never happened is nutty.

So is believing that the Eucharist is the ACTUAL body of Christ.

So is believing that Jesus ROSE into the sky.

But the reason the holocaust is so important is that it is being used as a political tool to justify wars and killing.

The Holocaust was genocide.

Why is it now used to justify more genocide?

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:45 PM

General Patton

When General Patton's army discovered the concentration camps in Germany during World War II, he immediately ordered the townspeople to be marched out of town and made to walk through the camp and see what they all pretended to not know was going on.

If the Pope is serious about "rehabilitating" Bishop Richard Williamson, he should not be given the "option" of visiting the camps. He should be marched (dragged if necessary) there and made to see what he claims never happened.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:45 PM

oooookay....

So, if I say to Herr Stink that Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, homosexuals, political prisoners, Poles, and many others were slaughtered by the Nazis...does his head explode? Because apparently it's not possible to say that sentence.

My Jewish grandfather and Catholic great-aunt died at Thereisenstadt...but supposedly I can't acknowledge that? It's somehow impossible to mourn both?

Oh wait, it's not. It's just that SS is just an insane reject, munching cheetos in momma's basement. Don't exert yourself so, sweetie, the next Stormfront newsletter will come out soon enough.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:45 PM

Abu Ghraib and Gitmo,

Civilians were and are being held there as prisoners. By any reasonable definition they were and are being tortured. Many were tortured to death. We have pictures to prove it. We have testimony to support it. We have survivors to testify as to it.

ERGO

Abu Ghraib and Gitmo are DEATH and TORTURE CAMPS.

And just WHAT country provided us with "Technical Assistance" for these "interrogations" and foul torture and murder?

B.I.O.Y.A.

Few things are worse than ideological Nazis hiding behind the Magen David.

EWWWWWE!

At least the Nazis had the decency to twist the cross rather than defame a religious symbol and religion.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:48 PM

@ Jug

Props for the Python ref.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:48 PM

re: twisted crosses

The Nazis DID appropriate an age-old religious symbol, you ignorant pissbag. The swastika (albeit inverted from the familiar Nazi emblem) is a symbol of good fortune and protection in several ancient faiths. It's not a fucking "twisted cross."

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:49 PM

Maybe he won't travel to Auschwitz,

but I've been there twice. If he did ever go, being a "Man of God" he couldn't possibly help but be convinced of the authenticity of the Holocaust.

Aside from what "Something Stinks" would like you to believe, those of us with any knowledge of WWII and the death camps know that the Nazis were not just after the Jews, and they didn't kill only Jews in the camps. Anyone who was different was fair game. The museum at Auschwitz shows this. Everyone who was locked up there had to have their photo taken, and those photos line every wall of every barrack. When you walk through the barracks, the eyes in the shaved heads in every photo watch you pass by, and there are hundreds of thousands of them. There are rooms loaded with shoes, clothing, personal items, suitcases, kids toys, and hair of the victims. The enormity of it all is staggering.

If you have any emotions at all, and are a feeling person, you cannot help but be affected by the atmosphere of the place. You can see the ovens, you can see the firing squad and hanging areas. The rails are still there, so you can see where the prisoners came in. Just knowing what was done in this place is enough to depress anyone.

Whatever this man's religious beliefs may be, and as a lapsed Catholic I don't really care, he could not visit Auschwitz and not be moved. I think that is why he is taking the easy way out. He doesn't want to feel the reality of it all.

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