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Thank you for your response to Steele the First. There are legitimate criticisms to be made of Israeli policy and the behavior of some fundamentalist Jews; however, based on Steele's previous letters, it seems he's just a garden-variety Jew hater.
[Steele the First] he's just a garden-variety Jew hater
Unlike something stinks, who's much more accomplished with his jew hatred.
According the John "Juan" Cole and Glenn Greenwald, the holocaust was at worst, an opinion about something that probably happened. This is standard Salon doctrine.
We apparently agree:
My Point: "Everyone who was locked up there had to have their photo taken, and those photos line every wall of every barrack."
Your Point: "That's untrue.
Only those who stayed at Auschwitz I were listed in the logs, marked and had their pictures taken. This is a small minority of those sent to the facility."
If you reread my comment you will see that I said "Everyone who was LOCKED UP THERE" had their photos taken. You were quick to point out that "Only those who stayed" in camp #1 were photographed. I don't see the difference in our comments.
I didn't mention those who were shipped in and immediately sent to the showers because I was discussing the atmosphere of Auschwitz. I know that those photographed were a small minority. They were the ones who were albe to work. The elderly, infirm, and young didn't live. I know that. Obviously, Bishop Williamson doesn't believe any of this, and this was what I was talking to.
One cannot visit Auschwitz and be a disbeliever if they have the capacity to feel the inhumanity of it all. I don't care HOW these people died, the fact that there WERE death camps is enough.
Someone commented on the incapability of cremating so many people...not enough time or fuel. Residents of the surrounding area have reported the continual, around the clock, workings of the ovens. There was not ONE oven, there is a building of them. Agreed, all 6 million Jews were not gassed and creamated, and neither were the other approximately 6 million non-Jews who were killed by some method or other by the Nazis during the war. Why people writing here are under this assumption is beyond me. Jews, Poles, gypsies, gays, and anyone who happended to be in the way, were easily shot in the streets of Poland for any trumped up charge, or simply "just because". Just go to Poland and talk to those who lived through the experience. You won't be the same. I'm not.
He knows he will absolutely be proven wrong. He denies the Holocaust not because the evidence isn't convincing enough; he denies the Holocaust because he refuses to cede any moral ground to people he considers infidels (as you know, infidels are not supposed to have any moral ground). Willful disbelief.
I hear the Turks believe they didn't kill any Armenians.
Yes, I was taught all the same stuff. I held it as dear as you do.
Then I realized that Nazis were not the only monsters in the world and as far as lying goes, there was nothing special or unique about them. When we engaged in mass murder, no one thought to mention that it was mass murder or that it was wrong. Then I saw Vietnam and learned that we were capable of killing innocent civilians face to face and torture, rape and baby killing and I realized that all wars were atrocities and evil Then I saw that I had been lied to about the Arabs and that they were the new target, just as the Jews had been before. Then there was the genocide in Cambodia and OUR governementt was on the side of the murderers and made sure they kept a seat in the UN. So much for America being the good guy.
Then the War on Drugs showed me that everything the Nazis did was copyable and it was detailed by a neo-Nazi at that, LarRouche. Drug Free Zones is a direct copy of Juden Frei Zones and the theft of property was the states motivation. Then I learned about our firebombing of civilians in WW II and figured we murdered just as many as the Nazis did. Then came the intifada and all the lies about how plucky Israel was David against Goliath fell away watching IDF soldiers ENGAGE children with slings and rocks and murder them. I found out about the drugs and arms business being the same thing and why our troops died protecting the our trafficker's airport from other gangs. That is why we invaded Afghanistan, to restore the opium business.
Then our congress, bough and paid for by AIPAC and defense contractors had us attack, invade and destroy Iraq for Israel and destroy our countries economy in the process. The population has been reduced by 5 million. And now Gaza?
The Holocaust gets smaller and less important with each successive atrocity. It is just the way people are and the sick religions that afflict us just give us reason and motivation for more horrors and people dare to say they are justified and right with their genocide and hate.
Then schizophrenic psychopaths like JonathaninTelAviv call me a Jew - Hating anti-semite for opposing the murder and slaughter of innocent civilians. The only thing I hate more than a Nazi is a Nazi who hides behind the Magen David and cries "HOLOCAUST DENIER" to justify their own little holocaust.
German Nazis have had 5 year run of horror and evil.
Israeli Nazis have had 60 years.
Enough is enough.
The deaths of those murdered by the Nazis should not be used to justify the murder of others it is obscene and vile.
The Holocaust has become an instrument OF holocaust.
If you shit on the Holocaust to do your dirty deeds don't bitch when loses value.
All the other people that were murdered or killed in WW II also count for something. Not just the 6 million or 3.5 million or 3 million murdered who were Jews.
History is lies written by rich people who kicked other rich people's asses and paid people to make them look good and the other guy look bad and that is done with the blood, sweat and tears of the poor.
Christians, Moslem and Jews are all variants of the old Hebrew religion - we are all Jews.
You cant get anymore anti-semitic than that according to the zionazis.
You know why they remade "The Day the Earth Stood Still"?
They wanted to bury it because it had an anti-war message. If you are against war, you must hate the Jews, so they made it into a ecology message and let a moron direct it. That is what they did. Screw them, they deserve to be called Nazis and fascists, not Jews. 500,000 people put out of work so we can get more people to join the military because we have more countries to "Iraqify" and both parties working for Israel, not America.
Decent people don't support war. Smart people don't believe the lies told to sell, justify and glorify it either.
People like me are not the problem, the zionazis and there targets are the problem.
Palestinians are the Jews who didn't leave but stayed after the 70 a.d. revolt. Now you know why the zionazis take pleasure in killing them. Just like old times.
Damned perverted if you ask me.