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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:00 AM

Did Israel commit war crimes in Gaza?

The immense number of Palestinian civilian casualties suggests that the country violated international law. But do the laws of war really govern asymmetrical conflicts like this one?

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 04:46 PM

Klytus

You assert a phosphorous bomb, the IDF says they used high in the air exploding charges to light the areas where they were sending troops.

It seems unlikely they'd phosphorous bomb their own troops.

You just assume blood libel is true about the Israelis whenever you hear it spoken.

I don't know the whole story, and neither do you, and yes, it's true they didn't allow foreign journalists in. It doesn't prove all of your malicious prejudices.

And yes, prejudice is the correct term, because you've convicted an unnamed person or persons without the facts. In other words, you've prejudged, merely based on the nationality of the people involved, and I'm being generous.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 04:09 PM

Phosphorus bombs were outlawed by the U.N.

Wake up and smell the war crime christine!

Thursday, January 29, 2009 03:33 PM

to X Hutman-re did Israel commit war crimes

way back in the letter stream you responded at length to Renegade Iconoclast, and claimed that comparison of Israel vis-a-vis Palestinians (who are a "new people" only 60 years old by the way) to the US' stealing Native American lands was NOT VALID because of the length of time passed. That hardly sounds like an ethical position to take. What a crime is not a crime after time goes by. Time heals all wounds? Is that it? If so, why are complaints about slavery and suggestions of reparations still made, when those offenses occurred 100-200 years ago? You are being more than disingenuous, your statements are fraudulent. Your position is simply wrong.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 03:06 PM

Did Israel commit war crimes?

The U.S. committed war crimes in Iraq if you go by the body count. The Hutus committed war crimes against the Tutsis. Kadaffi committed war crimes blowing up a plane. The Allies committed war crimes in Dresden. The U.S. committed war crimes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The list is endless. WAR IS A CRIME, PERIOD. Everything else is meaningless quibbling. Israel is just as entitled to retaliate against aggression as ANY OTHER COUNTRY IS. Get over it.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 01:39 PM

Bombastic Rain

Sickening. Israel defends its people who were subjected to 1000s of missile attacks and they are accused of commiting war crimes? The cesspool that is Gaza needs to be cleaned out! Send the filth to Jordan where they belong and then purify the place with a neutron bomb!

Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:10 AM

@olivepit3 and Jews Living in the West Bank

I have a suggestion for you: I don't have a problem with Jews living in the West Bank, provided that the Palestinians living there be given the same citizenship rights as their Jewish neighbors. What do you think?

Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:28 AM

I'd prefer to express that more emphatically by responding...

Israel? War crimes? Did they commit war crimes as recently as two weeks ago?

HELL YES!!

Thursday, January 29, 2009 09:55 AM

Yes. And Lebanon, too.

"But do the laws of war really govern asymmetrical conflicts like this one?"

Why else were they written? It would be insanely corrupt to use that question as any wedge into an excuse for Israel's war crimes.

And to give a clear answer to the question: YES!

Thursday, January 29, 2009 07:38 AM

racist post

So, what happened to all the jews, in the land of the jews?

Over the centuries, after the Muslim invasions, and the crusades, there was forced conversions, massacres, relocations. Do the jews have a right to the land of the jews? I say It was and is their land. The arabs have 22 nation-states, possibly 23 once all the africans are murdered in Dafur. in the Sudan. That amounts to some three million square miles of land, with some 350million arabs. Why fight over a slither of land, which was never theirs to begin with. LET THE JEWS LIVE IN PEACE.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 07:28 AM

racist post

"What a racist post" A. Vulcan speaks the language of the left. I didnt hear apartheid wall, though. Of course, the arab militias who slaughter thousands in Dafur arn't racist, only the fellow who points it out.

HERE'S a good one from A.VUKCAN: "Since 70AD, jews were never more than a tiny minority." I say, I bet you have the CENSUS to prove it.

But lets follow that line of thinking. What happened to all the jews? A leftist professor came to my town to expouse the arab cause(you call it palestinian) to shown slides of a little town called Bethlehem. The town is in the West Bank, where only arabs are allowed to live. Any jews who live in or around Bethlehem are considered settlers. Bethlehem-- let me think two jews called Mary and Joseph gave birth to the most famous jew who walked the earth--JESUS. In the land of the Jews. Now it is illegal for a jew to live there. Ironic, huh.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 04:40 AM

@maureen

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 02:54 AM

@olivepit3, you're the pits, all right. I hope your knowledge of history is better than your spelling.

You certainly don't show any of he wisdom of "Solommon" when you write with such open contempt about "primative" Arabs. Your letter is a testament to what you are. If you or any of your family have ever been refugees, I hope that you received a lot better treatment in your country of refuge than the 70% of Gaza's population who are refugees.

Thursday, January 29, 2009 02:17 AM

Boycott Israel

It is starting...

"As educators of conscience, we have been unable to stand by and watch in silence Israel's indiscriminate assault on the Gaza Strip and its educational institutions," the U.S. Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel stated in its inaugural press release last Thursday.

"The response has been remarkable given the extraordinary hold that lobbying organizations like AIPAC exert over U.S. politics and over the U.S. media, and in particular given the campaign of intimidation that has been leveled at academics who dare to criticize Israel's policies," Lloyd wrote in an e-mail to Haaretz Monday. "Within a short weekend since the posting of the press release, more than 80 academics from all over the country have endorsed the action and the numbers continue to grow."

--- http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059775.html

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 07:28 PM

@olivepit3 - What a racist post!!!

You are clearly full of hate and racism toward Arabs and Muslims whom you find easy to dehumanize (kind of explains the behavior of the Israeli war criminals in Gaza - Many likely share your hateful outlook)

As for your interpretation of history, did you consider:

1) Since 70 AD - when the second temple was destroyed by the Romans- Jews were never more than a tiny minority in Palestine until the 20th century.

2) In the 20th century, the Zionist movement started mass immigration of Jews to Palestine while denying the existence of the Palestinians (remember the whole thing about "a land without a people for a people without a land" and Golda Meir's "There is no such thing as the Palestinians")

3) Palestinians did not leave their homes voluntarily (no one would) they were massacred and driven out by Zionist terrorist gangs like the Irgun, Stern and the Haganah who brought terrorism to the Middle East (where Muslims, Christians and Jews had lived in peace for centuries).

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