The bottom line is that Saddam had 12 years to comply with UNSC resolutions and demonstrate that he had destroyed his WMD. He failed to do that. If he had, he would still be in power and his sons would still be alive.

Some believe that by November 2002, Saddam had already moved his WMD out of the country. According to Sada, "On June 4, 2002, a three-mile-long irrigation dam, which had been drawing water from the Orontes River in the northwestern district of Zeyzoun, Syria, collapsed, inundating three small villages and de-stroying scores of homes…. As soon as word of the disaster was broadcast on television, help began arriving from all over the Middle East."

Iraq was one of the countries to send aid to Syria. However, Sada claims that the Iraqi planes and trucks that traveled to Syria did not carry supplies for those in need. "Weapons and equipment were transferred both by land and by air," Sada wrote. "The only aircraft available at the time were one Boeing 747 jumbo jet and a group of Boeing 727s. But this turned out to be the perfect solution to Saddam’s problem. Who would suspect commercial airliners of carrying deadly toxins and contraband technology out of the country? So the planes were quickly reconfigured."

Indeed, according to Agence France Presse (AFP) on June 9, 2002, "Iraq said Sunday it has sent 20 planeloads of humanitarian assistance to Syria to help victims of Tuesday’s Zeyzoun dam collapse in the north of the neighbouring country." AFP noted that Iraq would send foodstuffs, pharma-ceutical products, and "teams of specialised doctors, surgeons and chemists to Syria."

That may not have happened, but no one really knows what happened to Saddam's WMD since Saddam never documented their destruction.

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/ACOS-64BRQW?OpenDocument&rc=3&cc=syr

Hi Serafin!

Yes I have heard of the first amendment. And I never suggested anywhere that you and your ilk should cease spouting off.

Continue to rant, revise, scream censorship, whatever. I just pointed out that you guys aren't believed.

And BTW, the GOP and it's apparatchiks are the majority stockholders of Snide & Co.

Groenhagen - I served as well, before you, dealing with the Soviets. Let me salute your honorable service.

Continue to enjoy the pleasing stories your favorite agitprop dispensers provide you, and you're still not believed.

Cute comment. However, note that the sources I have cited here are from the mainstream media. You may not believe them, but neither you nor your fellow liberals here have proven any of them wrong. I've done my homework. If I read something that does not check out, I do not share it as a source with others.

The facts are simple. Bush, whether culpable for allowing the various problems to happen (9/11, Katrina response, ill-concieved occupation of Iraq, failure of the economy, etc.) he and his administration still carry the blame of not diligently and thoughtfully taking steps to minimize damages and charting a course of correction.

Groenhagen, were you ever at Camp Hansen in Okinawa?

"Groenhagen, were you ever at Camp Hansen in Okinawa?"

You may be thinking of my late brother. He was stationed there in '83 and '84. I was there for just four weeks in 1984 for NCO Leadership School. I was at Camp Foster/Camp Butler from 9/82 to 9/83, and then at Futenma from 9/83 to 12/85.

Hey, a fellow Red Leg, how about that? 13 Alpha 10. Ooo-ra!

I was cadre at a training battalion, '72/'73 at Sill. We used to run NCO Academy classes on night navigation courses right under Eight Inch fire. You could hear those ogives spinning up there like the End of Time. It could make you think about Eternity, you know?

I got so used to hearing the range exercises at night that I sometimes had trouble sleeping when all batteries shut down.

Seems like another world, now. I stopped at Sill in 2000 and there's nothing in the battery areas where you trained but sidewalks. The post is much different now. Almost no howitzers. No such thing as 8 inch or 175s any more.

Tamp 'er light, man.

He may be the person I'm thinking of who was stationed with me. I was in Motor Transport Platoon, 3rd Combat Engineers Battalion at Camp Hansen in 84 and 85. I was a mechanic and he was a driver. Funny thing is, I was just talking about the guy I knew with the last name of Groenhagen a couple of days ago...it had to do with something that he told our OIC who was named Capt. Kurik. Groenhagen was a pretty funny guy. Again, sorry for your lose.

The American people elected the clown twice and followed his lead like robots for 7 years ....

From "Cool Hand Luke" :

Captn: What we have here is failure to communicate. Some men just won't listen. So then you get what we had here last week ... which IS the way he wants it. Well he GITS it.

I don't like this anymore than you men."

forgive me, but i laughed outloud at the last statement in this article...dont know if it was a joke or just plain foolishness....perhaps written before the current financial melt down.....oh! oh! oh! mr. kotter! mr. kotter! i heard that larry flint is applying for a bail out! please! mr. kotter, sir! can i have one too? i can guarenty that i have truly mismanaged my life and my financial out look is very dark! i think that just maybe i could do with somewhat less that the value of the things stolen from paris hiltons home....maybe. i realy wish people would stop calling it the bush administation....please, call a spade a spade! it's the channey adminstratation...you dont still believe that george bush has the intelectual ability to pull off this defrauding of the american public, not to mention the rest of the free world?....to everyone who reads this...i wish all of us the very best of luck in getting through the next decad or so.

Dems including Al Gore's father were against civil rights legislation in the '60s. Nixon rammed thru affirmative action. Yet blacks continue to vote for their Dems who never did a damn thing for them. Harry Reid is the latest example.