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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
How many Irakis were killed and you didn't mention it?
A million + ... A million and a half - maybe?
How many Afghanis?
Hundreds of thousands?
Did all these people have to die?
Why did you at Salon and elsewhere have to wait till today to start connecting the dots?
Maybe, as long as house prices were rising - and the stock market along with them - there was a tacit deal:
we are giving up our freedom, we are shutting our eyes
and let the administration do as it pleases... clap, clap!
With the rising figure of American war casualties, and house and stock prices plummeting ... voters remembered there existed a constitution, a Bill of Rights, that there is perhaps a public responsibility which is more than a bunch of private, egomaniac, frankly psychopathic interests.(There isn't such a thing as society, said Mrs. Thacher)
Maybe principles count only after the public's pockets are hit.
What attitudes... Should we call it almost suicidal
hypocrisy?
Only 12 more days until renewal. It will take at least 2 years for Obama Admin. to root out all the evil right wing faithful in government positions. That is why I think Panetta is a good pick The CIA needs and outsider with a new perspective.
The rabid right wing has sucked the life out of the GOP and sucked it down their dirty drain.
To equate sanctions with bombs and invasions so that you can vilify Clinton seems to me rather intellectually dishonest. Sure, Sadaam was a nasty dictator. We did not need to do business with him. Our allies agreed with that stance. Did this increase infant mortality? In all likely hood yes. The sanctions were not because of WMDs, but because of Sadaams persecution of Kurds and his failure to follow UN resolutions on weapons inspection. The issues was whether he would allow Hans Blix and the UN inspectors access. Obviously if he did, we would have found that he had no WMDs. Indeed, some argue that Sadaams posturing was designed to convince others that he had weapons so that we would not invade! That was like putting up a "beware of dog sign" and forgetting to get the dog. What the Bush administration did was to use the limited intelligence as a basis for making unsubstantiated claims. They knew very well what the limits of the intelligence were, but chose to present the data as a slam dunk. Similarly, they consistently linked Iraq qith Al-Qaeda, despite the fact that there was no credible evidence. Indeed, Bin-Laden was no friend of Sadaam. We did Bin-Laden a favor by removing Sadaam, who was not an islamic fundamentalist. Anyone who was familiar with the region could have predicted that Iraq would migrate towards Shiite Iran once Sadaam was out of the way.
Listen, bush was the President, the working horse of the government was the Democratically controlled congress. Did we forget this? How media bias convenient!
Come on...the number of manufacturing jobs lost as Bush's fault? PLEASE...NAFTA began the exodus of good jobs from this country.
Until we bring real jobs back, we'll remain in trouble. And in four or eight years, there will be plenty of firing of cannon shot at the Obama years...the same party controls Congress AND the Senate.
drowning, not waving...Al C
I was disappointed after reading this; from the teaser, I expected a little more, and a little better. The enormous financial and moral costs of Iraq are doubtless Bush’s greatest failure. Our position of global leadership has been seriously undermined-- and that’s not a good thing, although I’m sure many lefties would beg to differ. The fruits of financial deregulation come home to roost every day, and the healthcare debacle is a national shame. All well and good. But Katrina? Am I to assume there would have been no hurricane if Al Gore had been in the White House, or that the poor bureaucratic response would have been better? I seriously doubt it. The Minnesota bridge collapse? Our infrastructure has been crumbling for decades, and it is beyond a stretch to imagine this would have been turned around by a Democratic Administration, or that specific incidents like the bridge collapse could have been avoided. Global warming? A substantive response has been delayed, but it will take decades to stop and reverse what is already happening, and the world after a green Gore Presidency might have had a better head start, but would still be the same world we live in today. This article is more than a bit disingenuous.
yeah - we should definitely put everyone to work building roads. Such optimism - a nation of ditch diggers (as long as they are union).
The comment below was on the third page of comments. I haven't read all 26 pages of comments, so perhaps this has been pointed out already, but...
>>Republican rule has been a disaster, to be sure. But there was no peace under Clinton, and the country's wealth was moving from poor to rich all the while. Recall, please, that the bombing of Iraq never stopped for a day under President Clinton and that our destruction of that country's power, water and sewer systems was blamed for half a million deaths, a price our secretary of state said was 'worth it' to contain that beast Saddam. Recall, please, that some of our most vulnerable citizens were stripped of public assistance in the name of welfare reform; watch 'Roger & Me' again for a reminder of those times.
Clinton was elected president in 1992. "Roger & Me" came out in 1989. Seems a stretch to hold him responsible.
What complete blather. Did someone actually pay you to write this crap? I think you have a treatable condition.
I don't know how many saw "what would you do" on ABC the other night, but basically they had a couple actors in Paris acting like the stereotypical "ugly americans". The guy was wearing a Bush T-shirt. One of the bystanders (german accent), later interviewed after the act was revealed, said that wearing the Bush T-shirt was like her wearing a "I like Hitler" T-shirt. The fact that the vast majority of people outside the US think the same thing says something.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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