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Did I just buy an SUV? I didn't mean to. I am an environmentalist. Really. But before I knew it, there it was, in front of my house.
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  • Sadly, you fell for it.

    Geez, what some ppl won't do to justify their behavior. Crossover" is marketing speak for station wagon on a truck chassis, because the word "station wagon" isn't sexy and turns young buyers off. Congrats, hope you enjoy the part you and your SUV will be playing in helping to kill the planet.

  • So Mograine16 drives a SUV, but likes to lie about it.

    I've been offroad many, many times. I drive an AWD. If you took time to actually read before spouting off, you'd discover that I've lived a rural lifestyle all my life and have made plenty of compromises.

    I'm honest. Are you?

    No, you are not. You drive a SUV, yet you pretend it's something else.

    An AWD, (All Wheel Drive for those that don't know) is a SUV.

    As I wrote, none of you complain when you're stuck in the snow and I have to come rescue you

    Not me, mate. I have a AWD. I can rescue myself. Plus I'm in the Southern hemisphere. We'll see how much good that SUV does you when the Greenland ice sheet slides off into the North Atlantic Current.

    -- Morgaine16

    Keep telling yourself that an AWD isn't a SUV, you've almost convinced yourself.

    The I doubt you know much about vehicles, since I wrote that mine has a center locking differential, which would only be on an all wheel drive vehicle, or AWD as you like to say.

    So, see, we DRIVE THE SAME TYPE OF TRUCK.

    The difference is I don't pretend that mine's not a SUV, and yes you are petty because you try to pretend you are above everyone else, when you drive the same type of vehicle.

  • Cross over confusion

    Crossover" is marketing speak for station wagon on a truck chassis, because the word "station wagon" isn't sexy and turns young buyers off. Congrats, hope you enjoy the part you and your SUV will be playing in helping to kill the planet.

    -- djMikulec

    No, an SUV is based on a truck body.

    A cross-over is based on a car body.

    Typically, an cross-over has a much better on road ride than an SUV (compare a truck to a passenger car), but much reduced off-road capability.

  • Apologies, last response to Jethro ... er, Xanthro

    First of all, I never said I DIDN'T drive an SUV.

    But I don't.

    A Subaru Liberty is a STATION WAGON with AWD.

    Look it up.

    Mroron ... er, moron.

  • Why does one car have to do it all?

    Mark's Outlander is capable of the following mission profiles:

    • People mover mode: Move 6-8 people and no cargo, burning 5.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Road trip mode: Move 4-5 people and reasonable amount of cargo, burning 5.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Hauler mode: Move 2 people and 36 cu. ft. of cargo, burning 5.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Commuter mode: Move 1 person and little or no cargo, burning 5.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Family outing mode: Move 4 people and little or no cargo, burning 5.6 gallons per 100 miles.

    On my last trip through the dealerships, I considered the Outlander, and I also looked seriously at minivans--but in the end I wound up going in a completely different direction: I bought two Honda Fits.

    • People mover mode: Move 8-10 people (two of whom must be drivers) and no cargo, burning 6.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Road trip mode: Move 4 people and reasonable amount of cargo, burning 3.3 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Mini-Hauler mode: Move 1 person and 20 cu. ft. of cargo, burning 3.3 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Maxi-Hauler mode: Move 2 people (both of whom must be drivers) and 40 cu. ft. of cargo, burning 6.6 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Commuter mode: Move 1 person and little or no cargo, burning 3.3 gallons per 100 miles.
    • Family outing mode: Move 4 people and little or no cargo, burning 3.3 gallons per 100 miles.

    In my case, 90% of the use of the vehicle will be commuter and family outing mode. This means I burn an average of 3.6 gallons per 100 weighted mission-miles, across both vehicles. I also get my choice of driving a white or silver car to suit my mood, unless one of them is down for maintenance, in which case I have a spare.

    I also burn 300 gallons less fuel per year (I average 15,000 miles per year). Back when I made the purchase, gas was $3.50 and headed for $4.00 - at those prices, the fuel savings easily paid for acquisition cost of two Fits vs one crossover SUV.

    Now that fuel prices have crashed, I'm probably a little worse off financially. But I've put 3 tons less CO2 into the atmosphere per year, which ought to be worth something.

  • fair-weather environmentalist

    Um, how could you not know this was an SUV?

    Looks like the suburban breeder yuppie zombies just claimed another for their own. Yeah, yeah, I've heard this claim before: "But we have TWO CHILDREN! We need more SPACE!" Um, my parents had a midsize, American-made stationwagon. There were three of us, one in a big, bulky car seat, with another kid often along for the ride, and bags of groceries in the back. Yeah, it was a little crowded, but you know what? We didn't mind. We were used to it. We behaved without fighting and without needing to be distracted by a built-in dvd player. I guess parenthood is just different these days.

    I don't know what you were thinking. Current gas prices have apparently lulled you into a false sense of security. In a year, you're going to regret you ever set eyes on that behemoth. And I don't get it: Volvos are good, reliable cars. Why is it so expensive to maintain one?

    I'm not picking on you for having kids, just buying into the whole consumer culture that surrounds modern reproduction. You don't need a bigger car. You really don't. If you were really thinking seriously about the environment, you wouldn't mind sacrifice a little comfort and discipline for better gas mileage.

  • Wow!

    You can afford a new car? AND get paid to write a pathetic justification of it? Good on ya, son!

  • Why not a hybrid?

    The article mentions the Ford Escape Hybrid in passing. As the owner of a Mariner Hybrid, an Escape clone, I find the comparison interesting. I don't know what deals one could get these days on an Escape or Mariner Hybrid, but they're probably more expensive than the Outlander by five grand or more, which is hardly chump change even in these modern days. And hybrids feel a bit ponderous to drive simply because the battery adds a lot of weight. But the two wheel drive Escape gets 31 to 34 mpg, which is around 50% better than the Outlander. That's a nice feeling too. And the driving position and the interior appointments, as they say, are just fine.

    Another part of the feeling in the driver's seat of a hybrid is the visual fun of watching regenerative braking charging up the battery icon on the visual display. Not entirely rational? Not really. Great fun though.

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