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..."Am I or am I not a douche?"
The answer is obvious.
So you make your decision based on a carful of kids, kids' friends, and dog; and how often is this in fact your payload? Does every parent whose kid owns a ball glove feel obligated to buy a vehicle that hauls the whole team? If the answer is "Yes, I always haul kids and dogs and toboggans everywhere I go.", then get the damned van, and don't be a self-hating, surbanite, bow-tie daddy.
If, in fact your need for a styling transit bus is overstated, well, the '08 gets 22mpg combined average mpg: Not green.
But, hey, it's not good for everybody, just the guy in the seat. Light up a Winston, let's go cruising.
