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The venom and spite being spewed by those who despise the unions and wish to see them destroyed has reached a truly fevered pitch in this forum. And it seems to be more the retired than the active workers they're out to get. These retirees are people who played by a certain set of rules all their working careers and were promised a decent retirement; but, oh no, the union busters cannot bear the thought of common ordinary citizens living out their remaining years in relative comfort. This hatred goes way beyond economic or even political issues; it's just plain evil.