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Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama mania grips the capital

With over 4 million expected for the inauguration, city services will be taxed to the max. But bar owners and locals with digs for rent hope to make bank.

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 06:17 PM

In the event you STILL want to come...

...my apartment is available.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=103629090092

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 06:18 PM

my apolgies

Sorry Mike

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 06:23 PM

Illinois too!

Wanna buy a Senate seat?

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 07:38 PM

Mr. Obama is not eligible to be President

http://www.timesexaminer.com/content/view/896/45/

Many people have questioned why the Founding Fathers did not define the phrase “natural born citizen” in the Constitution. The answer is simply that the meaning was commonly understood and there was no reason to define the term.

“The Law of Nations,”

in Book I, Chapter XIX, part 212, it says: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Here is the definition the Founding Fathers did not deem necessary to supply since it was already understood.

http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubid.1193/pub_detail.asp

Supreme Court Justice Scalia's views on how to interpret the US Constitution.

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 08:10 PM

My dear thalightguy,

The current President has said that "the constitution is just a piece of paper" and SCOTUS has already subverted the constitution and the election process in 2000 and both parties and the MSM are determined to ridicule, lie, stonewall and BS this issue away.

On the bright side, it will be good for the war business, the surveillance business and the prison business. Now if he can only get the transit systems to run on time.

Stupid liberals and progressives voted for a fascist to save us from McCain who didn't even want or try to win.

Anyone who votes for Democrats or Republicans really has contempt for democracy and the constitution.

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 08:56 PM

Thalightguy's point expanded, the founding fathers would have considered Obama a Kenyan.

The definition of "natural born citizens" as understood by the founding fathers

THE

LAW OF NATIONS

OR

PRINCIPLES OF THE LAW OF NATURE APPLIED TO THE CONDUCT AND AFFAIRS OF

NATIONS AND SOVEREIGNS

FROM THE FRENCH OF

MONSIEUR DE VATTEL.

1758

CHAP. XIX.

OF OUR NATIVE COUNTRY, AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT RELATE TO IT.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

§ 215. Children of citizens born in a foreign country.

It is asked whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed.(59) By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot, of itself, furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him; I say "of itself," for, civil or political laws may, for particular reasons, ordain otherwise. But I suppose that the father has not entirely quitted his country in order to settle elsewhere. If he has fixed his abode in a foreign country, he is become a member of another society, at least as a perpetual inhabitant; and his children will be members of it also.

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§ 212. Citizens and natives.

"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."

Parents, not parent. Both parents must be citizens in order to convey natural born status.

"I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

A person who is born of a father who is a foreigner that person is a native of the father's country.

§ 215. Children of citizens born in a foreign country.

"By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot, of itself, furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him;

Obama's father was a Kenyan. The child follows the condition of their father's - Obama is a citizen of Kenya by virtue of his father being Kenyan.

CLICK ON NAME FOR SOURCE OF THE LAW OF NATIONS.

McCain is natural born due to being born of military parents but who cares.

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

Thursday, December 11, 2008 03:03 AM

Mike Madden

"Still, the Obama mania seems to be going well past anything the city has experienced before."

Perhaps Mike would be best advised to stop using such emotive tabliod terms such as "mania". In January this elected individual will be taking up the serious post of president. Even though as such he will in fact become the ultimate "Material Boy" his inaugeration should not be mistaken for a Maddona concert.

To use words like "mania" before the Xmas season has even come and gone shows the eagerness of a shrill,(paid or otherwise) or signs of the same incipient mental instability in reverse that is leveled at those who quite reasonably wish that the fellow confirmed his nationality and hence his suitability for the role in a manner for all to see.

Thursday, December 11, 2008 05:26 AM

Some of you sound like the same shitheads who

Proclaimed that any tax court in the US that had a flag with a gold fringe was in violation of the Constitution and therefore had no jurisdiction to make you pay taxes.

Yeah you sound THAT stupid.

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