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actually have quite a bit in common. Both think they have all the answers, and neither have spent time in war zones. Graner is not the problem. Hell, even Caley was not the problem. The problem was and is those people in power who create the conditions in which torture and other atrocities become acceptable. Do you really think My Lai was isolated? Do you think Abu Ghraib is the onlyone of its kind? The chickenhawks need symbols to crucify. And the peaceniks need the chickenhawks. The rest of us need leaders who understand psychology and how it feels to be tossed into a war zone at the age of 18. Leaders who know the brutal reality of combat and guerrilla warfare. Those who know war don't like it. And they generally don't blame the grunts for carrying out the orders of the brass.