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Monday, December 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Sympathy for Charles Graner

No one from the Bush administration has been held accountable for torture. But the guard from Abu Ghraib prison is still behind bars, and his family wants to know why.

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  • Monday, December 1, 2008 07:51 AM

    @Rambling Rose 22

    You are wrong where it matters.

    They may not have received specific orders telling them to stack prisoners naked like wood, etc, but they WERE repeatedly congratulated/praised for their "good work" in "prepping" the prisoners. And let me tell you another FACT from the horses mouth:

    Around the time of the Abu Ghraib revelations we had our annual "Law of Armed Conflict" (LOAC) briefing (USAFR). In the past it meant watching a video (actually well made and relatively engaging) about what is permissible and impermissible in war, about the Geneva Conventions, etc. It was followed by a quick question/answer session if needed or desired, run by a JAG officer. Well, not THAT time. No, that particular immediately post-Abu Ghraib session didn't have the video. It had an LtCol JAG officer there to give us a briefing. He spoke off-the-cuff with an attempted folksy charm. He spoke dismissively and jokingly about the Geneva Conventions and the OTHER laws of war vis a vis prisoners. He basically told us that the Conventions didn't really apply to these Iraqi and Afghani prisoners.

    I was appalled. I probably sat there with my mouth gone slack as this shit spewed from his mouth. Afterwards I was quite upset, even angy and disgusted. This was OFFICIAL cover for a general suspension of the "niceties" of the Law of Armed Conflict and Geneva - a DIRECT invitation for any among us who might be placed in a situation to take or hold prisoners in Iraq or Afghanistan to blow off some undefined aspects of Geneva and the LOAC to which it is a mere part. It was OFFICIAL sanction of prisoner abuse: a suggestion to act "creatively" in violating same. It was a promise for a pat on the back for a job well done should any of us treat an Iraqi or Afghani prisoner or prisoners with less than full LOAC regard.

    Let me tell you something Rose 22. If I ever am in a situation where Americans (or allies) are holding a prisoner and they begin violating ANY aspect of the LOAC, I will personally pull my 9mm and place it at the offenders temple and order them to stand down - and then I will take control of the prisoner(s) myself. If I am EVER in a situation whereby I learn of abuses in contravention of LOAC by others I will gather up all the information I can and immediately spill it to the news, the internet, and to my Senators and Congresspeople without hesitation. You know NOTHING about this shit. NOTHING.

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