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Madden hates Hillary Clinton and he hates Bill Clinton. End of story. When you start talking about Clintonites (sounds like a rock formation) you're a fanatic in the grip of a fantasy of disaster - and there's no cure for that. Lieberman's a disease and they haven't found a cure for that yet either. If you want disaster go to the White House and check out the current occupant of the oval office. The time to panic was when HE got elected, not Obama. The time to panic was when Cheney loomed in the doorway like decades old dirty laundry or when Condi popped out to Fifth Avenue to buy shoes while people were drowning in their homes after Katrina. Or when Cheney went on 'Meet the Press' and started babbling about going to the 'dark side' with that glassy Strangelove stare. Panicking now, when you actually have a decent human being as your President seems just plain mad to me. What are you afraid of? That he might actually KEEP HIS ELECTION PROMISES? 90% of American voters are in the centre, so I wouldn't lower the lifeboats just yet if Obama chooses to join them there.