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Monday, November 17, 2008 12:00 AM

Bill Ayers talks back

Sarah Palin called him a terrorist, Barack Obama called him an acquaintance. A Salon editor who knew Ayers back when talks to the ex-Weather Underground member turned Republican talking point.

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 05:28 PM

Terrorist gets more Free Publicity Extra Extra!!!

The state of our nation has been turned inside out---

Let's see Campean and Ramos are in jail because they shot a fleeing drug dealer illegal alien and Bill Ayers is out peddling books. Obama and Ayers make strange bedfellows.

A domestic terrorist gets more coverage from Salon than the DEA agents who are actually doing there job. Why don't you do a lengthy article on them.?

If Americans are too lazy to learn their history then they are doomed to relive the past.

The least informed population voted for the candidate with the least experience.

I do not need to be a person who was of age in the 1960s to understand that terrorism is terrorism. Maybe some of your readers need to actually have experienced things first hand, but as Obama has said , " I was only eight at the time," I think even if people had pictures of Ayers and Obama in a hug or slapping each other on the back the public couldn't have cared less. Too long ago, water under the bridge etc. Too

bad that Ethics is not taught anymore. The American public could use a strong dose of what is right and wrong.

Many people protested the war in Vietnam peacefully w/o bombing government building.

Pardon the DEA agents and boycott Ayers. Sometimes things in this world are black and white.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 05:35 PM

Definition of a troll- walter map- troll alert

This is what walter map's reponse was to my post:

RWatkins

"If your argument is that the solution to the stupidity of a Bush type of government is terrorism than we are in real trouble."

walter map

You're hallucinating.

RWatkins

"As citizens our responsibility is to change things in a lawful way and not through killing our own fellow citizens."

walter map

Then explain why you still keep that Tim McVeigh shrine, wingnut.

I read some of the other responses of this walter map's and I am trying to decide if this person is for real. It is one thing if someone gets into the heat of a debate and writes certain things and it is yet another thing if someone does not agree with your position. I have no problem with either. I have no problem with someone attacking me or the writer or anybody else. Hopefully they will do it with some respect but if not, then that is fine as well. What I have a problem with is people who write things for the sake of writing or for the sake of being a s*** disturber. Are they not called trolls? After reading some of walter map's other comments I realized that he is indeed a troll. Thus, even though I do not post often (I do read Salon regularly) I have learned my lesson and I shall avoid this troll. Lesson learned. One of the people (Lotus ) suggested that, in jest, that water map, seems to know everything. Even in jest, walter map is no Cliff Claven. He is a troll.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 05:44 PM

Spitting upon a soldier as he returns home

@ Thomas Malkin

I was too young. Like Obama a child. I knew no Vietnam Vets. If I did they never told me.

Not until I met a former soldier . A neighbor.

Spitting was just the act. Words like baby killer, murderer were used.

These things happened because they did, they are not Myths.

Ayers is a legend in his own weak mind. What is dangerous about him is that he teaches teachers to be teachers.

Khrushchev was right when he said we will crush you through the ideas taught through the schools.(loose translation)

I wonder what experience of War Shapiro has.

Call of Duty-- World at War does not count.

Neither does Call of Duty-

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 06:00 PM

Walter Map has passed out ....again

He is not a troll, just an angry drunk

He is the Eleanor Rigby of saloon.com

Sorry, Lotus, this is more saloon than stalin

Walter has drained today's bottle of vodka

He's passed out now

But, he'll be back with his unrequited anger and his nastiness tomorrow

Don't let him bodder you, my fellow open minds

His snark will reappear tomorrow just you wait

At least Eleanor had some reasons to be so desolate and so alone

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 06:32 PM

zoltan newberry

Walter Map has passed out ....again

Wrong again, neocon.

I don't happen to share your vices.

Next.

Think4Myself

Spitting upon a soldier as he returns home

Lying right-wing propaganda. Never happened.

Although it is true that the US military spits on soldiers all the time. And worse:

Panel: Gulf War Illness Confirmed

Highlighted by the committee's findings is what many veterans' advocates have called the gross negligence of responsible federal health and military agencies in repeatedly failing to get to the bottom of what the government labeled the "mysterious Gulf War syndrome" illnesses.

http://www.truthout.org/111808A

In other words, right-wingers merely pretend to "support the troops" - because what they're really saying is "support our warmongering - the troops are disposable."

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 06:39 PM

zoltan newberry

This has nothing to do with right or wrong. Power has it's own logic, the logic of brute force and total intimidation and crushing all opposition. This victory must be secured.

Even if you have to spout lying radical right-wing propaganda til the cows come home.

Translate your above statement into Italian and you could have us all believing you're channeling Mussolini. How's that fascism working out for you, neocon?

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 06:49 PM

Think4Myself

Obama and Ayers make strange bedfellows.

That particular lying smear doesn't work for you any more than it worked for Palin.

You can stop beating that dead horse now, neocon. It was pretty well pulped two weeks ago, and you're not doing anything but splashing dead horse pulp around. People are beginning to think you're obsessive.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 06:59 PM

Think4Myself

Ayers is a legend in his own weak mind. What is dangerous about him is that he teaches teachers to be teachers.

Heaven forfend the US should have teachers who actually know how to teach. Students might actually learn something, and then where would you neocons be?

Education naturally terrifies wingnuts like yourself. Education tends to make people resistant to right-wing propaganda lies. Especially yours, because they're so obvious.

Better to keep them ignorant, and more easily lied to. Works for you, doesn't it wingnut?

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