re: I am not threatening anyone.

Intellectually speaking.

Or something. At any rate, when did Louis Farrakhan, one of the most cherished gifts to the neocon hate machine in a century, ever become relevant to anything? You actually listen to nuts like that when composing your desperate and foolish attempts to discredit, prematurely, the President-elect? For god's sake, have you nothing better to do? Is this a pre-emptive impeachment movement you're trying to fire up? That would be a lot like trying to learn premature ejaculation, you know.

If, in fact, "likewise mindedness" accounts for anything, then the KKK's endorsement of George Wallace said it all, as does the Bush family's unsavory and nearly incestuous relationship with the Saudi Royals also condemns the outgoing administration. By this logic John McCain has been "palling around" with terrorists his entire political life, not to mention Sarah Palin, who, since she "associates" with "First Dude" hubby who for seven years belonged to an Alaskan secessionist movement who's leader "has no use" for the lower 48 is, therefore, an unamerican snow hillbilly, and, well, we could go on and on, couldn't we, but that would be idiotic, since I've just tossed another billygoat under the bridge. Bon appetite!

corky500 said:

“I still keep looking for the big story of how he was arrested and tried and found guilty.”

These simple words are the most eloquent indictment of the liberal media and the article written by Walter Shapiro.

Corky500 does not know yet what Ayers did and conspired to do: he set up bombs, he conspired to use nails bombs to kill soldiers and their dates in a dance.

He is free because of legal technicalities when the FBI handled the evidence.

Walter is so smug, he thinks he knows all one could know about our economic problems.

Hey, Walter, how about Jaimie Gorelnick and all the other ex Clintonites, collecting millions doing nothing on the Fannie Mae payroll, Walter?

How about Barnie Frank insisting there be no additional oversight there?

How about ACORN registering make believe and deceased voters, Walter?

How about ACORN intimidating banks to grant mortgages to people who had no credit history, Walter?

How about our crashing markets, Walter? Why are you out of the stock market, Wally? Don't you know Obama will ignite a great prosperity? You don't think this is a market trying to discount all of the anti- corporate bullshit and all the looming taxes and redistribution and pro union legislation, do you, Walt? You don't think this market can't ever find an Obama bottom, do you, Walt?

Debout! les damnés de la terre, Debout! les forçats de la faim!

That is French of course, it means: reduce your carbon footprint, take public transportation to the sit-in to protest the passing of Prop 8.

AJCalhoun said:

“You actually listen to nuts like that when composing your desperate and foolish attempts to discredit, prematurely, the President-elect?”

Actually I wish well to the President elect because of my own self interest. This is about how discredited the media is and how disgraceful this article by Walter Shapiro is.

McCain, Palin, the Bushes, the Saudis et al have been discussed thoroughly by the media.

Obama has not.

Farrakhan is he not a friend of Wright? Is he not a friend of Pfleger? Has he ever endorsed Bush? McCain?

So in endorsing Obama the following characters collide: Castro, Chavez, Amedinayad, Pfleger, Wright and Farrakhan calls him The Messiah and these endorsements were not and are not relevant for the liberal media.

However the alleged friendship of the Bushes with the Saudis has been widely reported.

First, out of deference to Lotus Feet's delicate sensibilities I will assiduously seek to avoid the use of four-letter words or other constructs which might be considered uncivil or politically incorrect (which, being directed toward the Right, is really weird, but at least a fun challenge). I see no reason, however, to extend the same courtesey toward Newberry for obvious reasons.

That being said, there are a couple items I'd like to point out to you, and please bear in mind this is a lifelong Republican addressing you now, not someone unfortunate enough (in your estimation at least, Zorro I mean Zoltan) to live in a benighted place like Mill Valley. I am also -- in my own estimation, at least, having grown up under the influence of real conservatives such as Dwight Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater, Jack Kerouac and William S. Burroughs (yes, you read that right), a congenital conservative. Further, when I presented myself at Fort Holabird in order to enlist and learned I had "something" wrong with my heart (boy, was that an understatement!), and failed the physical during the Vietnam unpleasantness, I wound up working as a civilian corpsman at NNMC, and have cared for the illnesses and injuries and countless American servicemen and women.

All that is by way of qualifying this next part, which is, to whit: If either of you, let alone both, feel that somehow your having served in Vietnam makes you defacto Good Human Beings, if you believe you were protecting the rest of us even though we didn't deserve, in hindsight, your most generous protection, then I'm truly sorry you wound up with that burden and strongly suggest you quit nursing the wound and move on to more fertile fields such as fomenting hate and discontent among your fellow regret-wallowers, instead of trying to make your contempt for your fellow Americans look like patriotism on your part. Or maybe just seek professional help for this condition.

I'm embarrassed to know that such anti-American sentiment can be spouted by any two former American military personel, as you obviously misunderstood your mission when you signed up. It's for all the people, not just the ones who agree with your inane and utterly uninformed points of view.

Lotus Feet, I pray this doesn't offend you. Newberry, you homophobe, frankly I don't give a rat's ass.

I mean, Zoltan Newberry and Juan are two of the most ridiculous people I have read in this whole thread. They keep skipping around, blasting their RushO'Reilly propaganda like it is the truth, and calling people names like "turd" and "pervert". If they aren't poster children for what is wrong with the Republican party I don't know what is. Amazing that they don't even realize how stupid and vitriolic they come off.

The only good thing is that when this thread is closed their comments will be wiped off this, just like mine right now will be.

Fantastic Article, by the way.