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Monday, November 17, 2008 12:00 AM

Bill Ayers talks back

Sarah Palin called him a terrorist, Barack Obama called him an acquaintance. A Salon editor who knew Ayers back when talks to the ex-Weather Underground member turned Republican talking point.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:22 PM

Lotus Feet

Lotus Feet is en vacance He is frolicking in Walter Map's pool down there in the highlands of Olde Mexico.

If that were true, I'd be sure to release the hounds. They haven't been fed in a couple of days, and fresh meat so rarely just wanders onto the grounds.

Walter is a retired personal injury attorney.

I'm flattered that you'd think me so knowledgeable in the law, but no. My profession is more unpleasant than that.

If Obama nominated Ayers to be Secretary of Education, would you consider that to be rubbing it in, or to be a ham-handed slap in the face? He does happen to be well-qualified.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 08:21 AM

Lotus Feet is en vacance

He is frolicking in Walter Map's pool down there in the highlands of Olde Mexico.

Walter is a retired personal injury attorney.

He made a fortune representing short people.

They sued the city for building the sidewalks too close to their asses.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 07:14 AM

heh lotus teat, where'd you go, killer ? ? ?

here i am, an honest-to-dog anti-military, lefter-than-thou, armchair anarchist...

hee hee hee

i think the young and stupid who have joined the imperial stormtroopers are non-thinking propaganda viktims (and/or desperate for ANY job, even baby-killer)...

ho ho ho

most saloonies are reflexive military/authority figure worshippers, EXACTLY why your misplaced 'stalin.com' and other extreme lefty charges don't make any sense here...

ha ha ha

as your boyking said: bring it on !

ak ak ak

artguerrilla@alltel.net

(did i miss you posting your email address, big bwave boyee ?)

art guerrilla

aka ann archy

eof

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 04:57 AM

So, why was our next Secretary of State, Hildabeast The Enabler, on Walmart's Board of Directors?

It is Democrats who want to keep the voting public too stoopid to see their vast hypocrisy.

So they support the same teachers' unions in the same school systems which have 40 - 60% high school drop out rates, and which have produced ongoing generations of illiterates.

Approximately 45% of Walmart's store managers started out in entry level jobs. They worked hard, went to school to improve themselves part time and realized The American Dream. Let's raise their taxes!

Walmart provides a pay raise for every working family who can buy every necessity there from eggs to socks and save anywhere from 10 - 40%.

So what's the problem with telling the union goons to get lost and go back to Philly

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 09:45 PM

Think4Myself

Keep public education free from the influence of the Right and the Left.

Yeah, right. You've already told us you despise education, period, neocon.

It's well-established that the radical right prefers privatized indoctrination centers to public schools, especially if they're run by religious nuts in bed with Republicans. Mostly because their teachers will work really cheap, since they're not actually qualified to work in real schools.

Republican judges have been known to deny students anything more than an eighth-grade education, probably to make sure Wal-Mart gets an adequate pool of cheap labor. Republicans naturally prefer their minions to be ignorant, compliant, and, above all, low-cost. And you achieve all three by trashing public schools.

Thanks for playing.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 09:15 PM

zoltan newberry

But you don't like his most effective foe, Sarah Palin, either

Not at all. I think Palin would make an excellent tupperware party hostess. As a candidate for national office she's as bad a joke as Dubya.

Remember the Republican pig, Senator Packwood, who used to try to feel up women in the senate elevators? He was drummed out, and so were many other corrupt repugs. Remember how Bill Buckley drummed Pat the Rat Buchanon out? That bigot will never speak at a Republican Convention again.

Good start. What about the rest of you?

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 09:11 PM

@think4 -- consider the source -- real wingnuts are beautiful

Next to the wheel, the sliced bread , the bidet, and the flush toilet, wing nuts may be one of mankind's greatest inventions. You don't need a wrench to tighten a wing nut. Wing nuts are easy and great and practical

So, consider it a badge whenever the soul-less Map Rat says wingnut, my frem.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 09:02 PM

Neocon Wing Nut ? sticks and stones....

Walter_Map

This wing nut just read Vets Under Siege published 2007 by Martin Schram.

The only ones I know who brainwash students are people who talk to students in K-12 schools about their preferred candidate , their preferred propositions. Keep public education free from the influence of the Right and the Left.

Teachers I know say Yes we can Yes we can...Others say Yes on Proposition 8-I say put a big wide piece of duct tape over their mouths. Let a kid learn grammar , math,history and problem solving and to DECIDE for themselves. Teachers have a huge influence over kids. Kids want to please their teachers, in any way they can, even agreeing as 10 12 year olds with Change- yes we can... Can what?? Teach them a preposition not a proposition.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 08:51 PM

I hate to have to interject, Mister Map

I do not like the corrupt Republicans like Stevens. Most of us don't. But you don't like his most effective foe, Sarah Palin, either, because you are a knee jerk, nasty, leftoid partisan, aren't you?

Remember the Republican pig, Senator Packwood, who used to try to feel up women in the senate elevators? He was drummed out, and so were many other corrupt repugs. Remember how Bill Buckley drummed Pat the Rat Buchanon out? That bigot will never speak at a Republican Convention again.

But you guys are like the teachers' unions, always protecting and even honoring your worst scumbags like that Jefferson guy. The feds found packs of hundred dollar bills in his freezer, and you rallied around him. Remember all the wonderful laws you passed to protect women from sexual harassment? Clinton broke every one of those laws in spades, and lied before a grand jury. Did you ask him to go away the way we asked Nixon to go away?

You are a fraud, mister map.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 07:58 PM

Ted's Out, Walter

Isn't it sweet? Sometimes the system actually does work. He didn't concede, either, which makes it even more beautiful. He simply lost the battle, fair and square (and balanced, even). He's done. Put a fork in him.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 07:50 PM

BernieO

I completely agree with your contention that Ayres and the radical side of the anti-war movement was detrimental to the whole anti-war movement. Peaceful demonstrations were encouraging a change in public opinion, along of course, with the much more vivid and graphic images (as compared to now....) of the casualties of Vietnam on the TV every night.

In 1968, if I wanted to watch TV I had to watch Walter Conkrite every night with my parents at the tender age of 10. Those images of the war, knowing that 2 of my relatives were there, made a huge impression on my young mind. Perhaps that's what's missing from these wars?

Anyway, what I saw on TV was enough to make me against the war even if I didn't completely understand the politics of it.

However, I do have to disagree with one of your last statements regarding "aligning" with Mr. Ayers.

Finally getting Mr. Ayre's side is interesting and provides some insight into his thought processes, as well as finally putting to rest his "associations" with Barack Obama.

While I didn't read all of the letters regarding this interview, what I did read did not indicate to me that anyone necessarily "aligns" themselves with Mr. Ayres, whatever that may mean.

Which brings me to my question: What philosophy is it, exactly, that anyone would be "aligning" themselves with? Perhaps I did miss that, because I didn't see a "new" radical philosophy in this interview.

And I don't believe the old radical philosophy will fly with President Obama.

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