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It strikes me that a thorough investigation on the matter of torture should proceed even if Bush issues pardons, the reason being that we must learn what happened and who bears the ultimate responsibilities. Even if Bush issues pardons, do these not apply only to the American court system? Once the full truth is exposed, what is to prevent other countries from indicting those responsbile and, if another country can catch the offenders, trying them? Spain has quite a record of doing exactly this, for example. Thus, the guilty parties might find themselves restricted to American soil in the future; the US would be their jail, which they could not leave without putting themselves in peril. Perhaps another power will exercise selective rendition on them for a change, kidnap them out of their gated communities and try them overseas.