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in almost any group there is some diversity and some people can be reached. In fact I think the argument that the Dems lack of ability to deliver anything dramatic has contributed to right wing strength has a lot of validity. Giving up on half the population because you think it is hopeless is a huge gift to the right. I'm not saying don't be realistic about what you are dealing with, but something has to be at least tried. I think Obama will try, and with big Dem majorities may succeed, in doing something that matters.