HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

So the vacation with McCain was made up?

Eh, who cares. I thought it was kind of mavericky to pass it along anyway.

I like the Great Schlep, and I think it deserves a theme song:

"Grandkids, don't let your bubbes grow up to be Cowed Goys."

Are you serious? You're actually arguing over whether the "Christians" or the "Muslims" are better/worse for jews?

Last I checked, both parties have blood on their hands, while most cases of them "supporting" are directly linked to some self-serving interest.

Are all Christians/Muslims anti-semitic? Of course not, but the bulk of the discussions going on here on the topic are inane.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

You're skipping over the exhortation to convert -- how convenient. You know, a major part of evengelical thought in this country. And hey, if you're into history, there's always the Spanish Inquisition.

I know that it is easier to just play the victim card and talk about how no one understands all of the persecuted and misunderstood Christians, but surprise, many of us actually have studied religion in college or actually understand the simple concept of disliking the message, not the messenger.

And there are many things to dislike regarding the fundamentalist view of the role of Jews (or Muslims or Hindus, etc. for that matter).

And Sarah Palin could have called out that minister who was blessing her for his Israelite comment. But she didn't.

Some thoughts from a charter memeber of the tribe.

Can someone please tell me why McCain is a war hero? Some sympathy for being a POW camp for most of the VietNam war, ok, but so what? My close friend and attorney, (Jewish) has 7 Purple Hearts, schrapnel near his spine, cancer from Agent Orange and believes that McCain is a doddering old sexist miscreant.

Can someone please tell me why I should give Liberman the time of day? Another old chicken hawk. Just what we need: some quasi-republican sending more kids to their deaths in faraway places. Out to pasture with you Lieberman!

Help me out on this one too: Sarah Palin is the antithesis of everything we (Jews) consider to be holy. Think books, (You know the Torah) and her Alaska book banning. Think reasoned thought, like the ability to put a sentence together that came from your own mind, not cram study talking points from Roves' minions. And yes fundamental Christians frighten me, mostly because there is no thought, just mindless following. (P.S. Jewish fundamentalists, Muslim fundamentalists, ______ fundamentalists scare me too). Actually, just thinking and remembering that the essence of Jewishness is repairing the world and striving towards ethical behavior.

Obama's win in less than a month may not bring down the entire 200 year old WASP boys club, but it is a start, at the very least it will put the last two or three nails in the coffin that contains Reagonomics and that will be worth the trickle down price of admission. Because that will make the likes of Palin and McCain superflowous as our country moves forward.

He's almost 80, a lifelong republican, and a veteran. He was leaning toward McCain until Palin joined the ticket. He's not too clear on a lot of the issues (he liked McCain mainly because of war hero thing, and a vague sense that he was a 'maverick') but he gets Palin. Gets her loud and clear. And does not like her one single bit. Asked me "can you believe she thinks she's got foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia? that's the stupidest thing I ever heard."

He's voting for Obama. And I can also tell you, if you had told me 40 years ago my dad would be voting for a non-white guy for President, you would have had to prop my jaw up with a forklift. Thanks, Sarah!

Last I checked, both parties have blood on their hands, while most cases of them "supporting" are directly linked to some self-serving interest.

-- micro ms

Everyone of our efforts, from the beginning of time, has had some element of self interest attached. Even our most noble, love itself, expects love in return. A lot of effort is spent trying to be free from the burden of self. You must be very young.

...they call them the Diamond Dogs."

FYI:

It is a secular name, which many people who happen to be Muslim have been given.

Juan Cole wrote a great and illuminating article on that very fact in this particular on-line magazine!

Check it out:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/28/hussein/index.html

Obama's win in less than a month

-- cbzd2008

Thats not gonna happen, friend. Jimmy Carter V 2.0 will dissappear to wherever Kerry got off too.

"HUSSEIN" IS NOT A "MUSLIM" NAME

-- salamimansam

The war continued with Ali's son, Hussein, leading the Shia. "Hussein rejected the rule of the caliph at the time," says Vali Nasr, author of The Shia Revival. "He stood up to the caliph's very large army on the battlefield. He and 72 members of his family and companions fought against a very large Arab army of the caliph. They were all massacred."

Hussein was decapitated and his head was carried in tribute to the Sunni caliph in Damascus. His body was left on the battlefield at Karbala. Later it was buried there.

It is the symbolism of Hussein's death that holds so much spiritual power for Shia.

"An innocent spiritual figure is in many ways martyred by a far more powerful, unjust force," Nasr says. "He becomes the crystallizing force around which a faith takes form and takes inspiration."

The Twelfth Imam

The Shia called their leaders imam, Ali being the first, Hussein the third. They commemorate Hussein's death every year in a public ritual of self-flagellation and mourning known as Ashura.

Google Ashura for some funtastic good times !