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Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:00 AM

Money talks, Barack. Are you listening?

With the fall of the Dow, Obama has the chance to change the national conversation to something more important than moose hunting.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:28 PM

Salon are you listening?

"With the fall of the Dow, Obama has the chance to change the national conversation to something more important than moose hunting."

That's great Walter, but will Palin24-7.com-- whoops-- I mean Salon.com continue to report on it?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:32 PM

Why not read his paln

Obama could not possibly layout the in detail of his plsn in a speech. I suggest you read his 'blue print for change'. Every leading economist has said his plans is the best. Obam's econoic advisers come for the best college in the University of chicago, the mots notable economics program in the U.S.

McCain has followed adn will follow the same old failed republican policies: DE regulation, and trickle UP tax policies. The republicans have been the party of greed for decades. It is coming home to roost.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:43 PM

Shapiro

if you weren't dining out on McCain's dime, you might actually be as well informed on this issue as the average Obama voter.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:47 PM

The more I read this article

the more I mourn the times when Salon readers didn't have their intelligence insulted by a guy who is clearly out of his depth.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:00 PM

Elections bespeak of a terrible inflexibility

First the election was about Iraq. Then it was about Immigration. Then it was about Race. Then it was about Gender. Then it was about the Other Guy. Elections are serialized single-issue mouthpieces. And it takes weeks to crank out the talking points every time they're force to change direction and address something new. With only a few weeks left, what is an Obama or McCain truly to do? First they have to have a position, then they have to get someone to write it down. Then they have to memorize that speech. Then they have to figure out the correct venues to deliver it. By the time either of them has a cogent story to tell it's too late.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:07 PM

@nancerich

if you weren't dining out on McCain's dime, you might actually be as well informed on this issue as the average Obama voter.

Considering the author has been historically one of the key proponets of foisting this electoral shipwreck of a candidate on the Dem ticket, you may well be correct for once.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:14 PM

@hootowl

Tell your bosses to send smarter trolls.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:16 PM

Give a hoot

Don't pollute the letters section.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:18 PM

Convention Speech

I watched his convention speech on cnn.com and then watched some talking head Republican give her analysis. Her main point was that he looked angry, that if listened to with the sound off all the viewer would think about was his anger. I remember thinking to myself---that bull--- better not become a talking point for the right

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:31 PM

Just keep blaming the Republicans

Every day, twice a day, in colorful language. Do not let up. Every day. Only about 50 days until the election. And it really is their fault.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:31 PM

Third Way? No Way!

"This crisis is an audition for the presidency in real time -- and an opportunity for a candidate to step up to the plate," says Bruce Reed, who was Bill Clinton's chief White House domestic advisor and is now the president of the Democratic Leadership Council. "If handled the right way, it could decide the election. If it is treated like another political issue, it could fade with the next news cycle."

Fuck the DLC. Yeah, if handled the right way -- right wing, he means. Sorry, DLC, but your weak tea Republican Lite prescriptions are decidedly not what the Democrats need. I'm sick to death of the DLC -- why won't they just go away? I guess because there's too much money in corporate sycophancy.

In fact, part of the reason why the economic meltdown hasn't immediately become a bonanza for the Democratic Party is precisely because folks like the DLC have continued to pursue the wrong way for the Democrats on economic issues, namely by abandoning the lower, working, and middle classes in favor of aping Republican tax aversion and kissing up to Big Business policies.

The Democrats need to return to meat-and-potatoes, nuts-and-bolts progressive populism, for the love of Keynes! In so doing, they will rediscover their moral footing, find their voice again, and rout the Republicans for a generation or two. It's not about isolationism, it's not about protectionism -- it's about progressive populism, making this country great again for the non-rich majority of Americans who've been roundly screwed over by neoliberal and neoconservative economic policy. If the Democrats are too co-opted to make that their issue, it's their funeral.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 07:42 PM

Conversations about moose droppings..

...has been Salon's obsessive specialty for the past two weeks...

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 08:03 PM

Did you really just call Michelle Obama an angry black man, hootowl? Aren't you the one always screaming sexism when we mention Palin

There is something of a contradiction there. I'll leave it to you to figure out what it is.

Hint: It has to do with skin color, and why people feel the need to constantly defend Sarah Palin (on the notion that she's the victim of sexism) but but allow Michelle Obama to literally be called every disgusting, vile name in the book, both sexist and racist.

No, Obama's playing this one PRECISELY right. People might not like it. But for those of you who think the angry black man idea is being overplayed, you're nuts.

The first time Barack Obama shows the slightest hint of anger this election is over. And McCain wins.

Don't forget Obama has to get the SWING voters. These are the very people (Reagan Democrats, NFL dads, security moms) who live in Appalachia/suburban Philadelphia/Cincinnati/Alexandria

who would be the first to get turned off by it.

Nope this is still America. And the angry black man is still a VERY real stereotype. It would KILL Obama and any chance we might have at the White House in two seconds flat.

People might be sick of hearing it. But racism is still a very real thing in this country. And blacks are expected to stay in the box. People who have claimed, for weeks, they only want to win are now advocating Obama inflict political suicide. No thank you.

Either change the racial structure or understand why Barack Obama has to run the way he has to run. Turn on your t.v. and listen to some of the things people in Ohio and Colorado are saying. Nope. We're not pushing the angry black man thing.

It's been a good week. Leave it at that. Obama's had a 7-10 point swing in every major poll. He's up in the swing states that matter, especially Ohio. The economy's tanking, he's on the attack and it's working.

Let's learn to be happy with our success, for once.

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