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Friday, September 12, 2008 12:00 AM

What small-town America is saying about Obama

In diners and mobile homes from New Mexico to North Carolina, I listened to working-class people try to make sense of a black president named Barack.

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Friday, September 12, 2008 07:29 PM

LOL!

If McCain steals the election and if we are unable to emigrate

As if he'd need to! You inept ostriches force an unqualified empty suit named Hussein-Obama on your ticket equipped with Syrian/Iranian fundraisers, a wife and preacher screaming about whitey, and who voted present 165 times in the legislator and never even bothered to show up for the Senate chairs handed to him on a silver platter...it's 60/40 already and McCain and the GOP haven't even started - you've completed alienated EVERYONE except fruity super-lefties and black bigots

and you think McCain is going to have to to STEAL the election!

LOL: hope springs eternal in the hearts of the lunatic fringe.

Oh, and I'd be happy to buy your crybaby,incompetent butt a one-way ticket to any country that would actually have you.

(what kind of leftist moron threatens a civil war on the internet in this day and age).

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:31 PM

Obama and Small-Town America

While I agree with Dan Hoyle's conclusion in his article, "What small-town America is saying about Obama", that a very small percentage of rural and small town Americans will vote against Obama purely because he's "black", indeed sometimes not black enough, I think it's Obama's apparent lack of passion about everything, that makes him seem to some elitist and to others phony.

Obama, as smart as he clearly is, seems to have been negatively affected by his legal education to the extreme point that even when he is refuting false and negative assertions about himself, his experience or even his family, he appears so dispassionate that his response or argumnent often seems like an instance of gamemanship or simply a mental exercise intended to win the argument with words alone. As a result many Americans, accustomed to the "outrage" displayed by Republicans at anyone with a different point of view, are suspicious of his arguments that appear purely intellectual, lacking conviction and passion. As a result the arguments are unconvincing and raise undefined suspicions..

I firmly believe that Obama's message and policies are refreshingly direct and honest after 8 years of the mendacious Bush and company, but without passion and conviction , they will not convince voters who are trying to decide between personality and policy in this crucial Presidential election.

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:32 PM

Can we ignore the SS Obama

Anytime soon he and his equally gteedy American hating wife will drive off in their limo back to Lakeshore and write books leaving their idiotic supporters bankrupt,embarassed and irrelevant.

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:34 PM

If only

I firmly believe that Obama's message and policies are refreshingly direct and honest

If only they were backed up by actually having DONE anything...anywhere besides run for his next office, get a bigger house and his obnoxious wife a fatter paycheck.

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:38 PM

@ hootowl

There were previous posts referring to the fact that Harry Truman was the last president that didn't have a degree from a university. While that's true, there's more to the story. Over the last eight years, Bush has been compared to Truman over and over and I fail to see any similarity. The other stuff is just about small towns since I'm from one. I've lived in Arizona for years - before McCain was representing the state - and I don't think he'll make a very good president.

As for surfboards - Charlie don't surf. Ask McCain.

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:47 PM

Temporary Mars Pods Until They Fix The Atmospheric Challenges

You know, I'm starting to agree with Lotus Feet.

This salon (saloon?) has too many Harvard educated malingering whiners threatening to riot, emigrate, burn baby burn if they don't get their way.

If they don't volunteer for this noble mission, I don't see any realistic alternative to a Marx On Mars We're Doing What's Best Fo You Draft.

They don't like the term, "socialism," well then let's give them "POOPM" - Progressive Out of this world Opportunities on Mars.

I was drafted and reluctantly served in Vietnam, and, when I look back, I realize it was one of the best things that happened to me.

These Harvard educated Salonniks may not like having to go to Mars at first, but once they get up there and really start sharing and building a new world together and having responsible sex together up there, they will see that their slightly less than voluntary exile from the corrupt and selfish Earth was one of the best things that could have happened to them too.

Friday, September 12, 2008 07:54 PM

Harry Truman

I do not see why a rural American would get nostalgic over Truman. He was responsible for two of the most atrocious political decisions in American history: dropping two Atomic Bombs and the second Red Scare that would gut American union leadership of its best and brightest for being Communist or associated with Communism.

Friday, September 12, 2008 08:21 PM

The HOPE People

Basing your politics on hope is kind of ignorant I think.

Did Moses hope that the Pharoah would just get tired of working his people to death?

Did George Washington just hope the English would decide to leave us alone?

Did Wellington just hope that Napoleon would go away?

Did Lincoln just hope that Alabamans would get tired of beating proud slaves to death?

Did Eisenhower plan on just telling the Nazis he hoped they would start being nice and go home to Berlin?

Now all this Obama hope seems hopelessly ridiculous, doesn't it?

Have 30 to 52 percent of American voters turned into a kind of cargo cult who believe that BHO is is the answer to all their hopeful prayers?

Are we being asked to vote for a kind of hysterical fantasy?

What is going on here?

Friday, September 12, 2008 08:25 PM

Are we bein' asked to vote for Tundra Bud

And John McDud?

I don't think so.....

Friday, September 12, 2008 08:28 PM

Republicans are Coming On Board!

Take heart people....there are alot of Republicans that are fed up and are coming on board!

Friday, September 12, 2008 08:35 PM

Hey zoltan and hootowl

You trolls getting paid by the post now? Give it a rest.

Friday, September 12, 2008 08:39 PM

Nihilism and ignorance.

What I think it comes down to is nihilism and ignorance among those people that won't vote for him...

They either know how bad Palin/McCain is and actively want the destruction that they will do to the social order of this country, like Bush did. Many of these HAVE been effected by Bushistic voodoo self inflicted wounds and figure out that it doesn't matter as long as someone else pays more for their choice. Or a sub-set of that group feels that it's good for the country to 'starve the beast' that is the middle and lower classes to break them from the teat of the government welfare state.

Then there are the truly ignorant who really don't grasp how devastating the last seven-plus years have been to many Americans and to the country that they claim to love and support. They are either misled by the Fox News's and the ABC's of the world or are misled by the extremist religion or extremist clubs or groups that they belong too. Gullibility just doesn't go far enough for some in this group. Although many are gullible, many more are just incredible ignorant. Many by conscious choice rather than some mental handicap. We've met them I'm sure. Look at the lower class people barely hanging onto the lowest rung on the ladder that still have the 'W 04' stickers plastered on their back windows of their early 80's car. They may have a 'I'm pro-life and I vote' sticker too somewhere on that car. These are the group of whom the 'Values Voter' are a subset. They are so sure of the choice that is told to them and so incurious to wonder hos 'religious' groups could back a ruthless man and adulterer for president and can't understand nuance if it sat on their lap and ate their face off. This also includes those that wouldn't vote for a 'black man', they are being nice, or a 'ni--er' when they're in their normal habitat. They wouldn't vote for a black man if Satan himself were running against him and was eating their own first born child.

Out of the two groups, very few could be changed... Sure, going all 'pro-life' might gain Obama a few votes but he'd loose the rabid 'pro-choice' core votes, although few would cross over and vote for McCain. Hey, maybe I've devised a new marketing tactic for the Obama campaign: go against the pro-choice core of the demcorat base. He'll lose but he will have converted some of the ignorant bunch...

Pandering to these two groups risks discouraging enough voters to stay home or not vote for Obama that the real risk for his campaign is probably determining just how far to ooze towards these groups and not risk losing flocks of voters that he can't afford to lose.

I vowed that I would not vote for him after his playing chicken with the constitution on that great FISA sellout vote. I will probably vote for his campaign but I will not give any money to it. You can't trust EITHER candidate. BOTH are desperately trying to win a very powerful job but one looks forward to dying in office and the other looks for a second term... BIG difference...

Can Obama win 'small town America'? Maybe, but is it worth it when you consider the very real possibility that he could be knifing himself in the back by doing so...

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