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Saturday, Jul 4, 2009
How is anything they do or believe any crazier than what goes on in the movie "The Ten Commandments" and what people believe is true???
You know people fight wars and ill people over than hokum even today?
How many people did her church kill?
Let them without sin, cast the first . . HEY!
/ducks and flees
waiting for a reporter from the establishment media to ask her about creationism and the end times. I'd love to hear her try to answer.
Pentecostal chuches like the AoG have been around for 100 years and growing like crazy. They're fine. This ishow you alienated yourself from 2500 square miles of voters.
How is anything they do or believe any crazier than what goes on in the movie "The Ten Commandments" and what people believe is true???
You know people fight wars and kill people over than hokum even today?
How many people did her church kill? How many wars did her church start?
Let them without sin, cast the first . . HEY!
/ducks and flees
How is anything they do or believe any crazier than what goes on in the movie "The Ten Commandments" and what people believe is true???
You know people fight wars and kill people over that hokum even today?
How many people did her church kill? How many wars did her church start?
Let them without sin, cast the first . . HEY!
/ducks and flees
First, I wasn't aware that Lt. Gov. of Alaska was a national office.
Second, these beliefs (save creationism) on what is right and wrong are not really any different than the Catholic church, which Biden claims to believe in himself. Certainly his recent statement on when life begins was basically the same. The difference is he's avowed not to enforce his beliefs on the rest of the country.
And praying (i.e., hoping) that the troops are on a moral mission is very different than what you seem to making of it: saying they are and turning it into some holy war.
For all I know, Palin may believe that the way GW seems to, but that's not what she said in that church.
So fine, hope she gets asked these questions, but don't make the mistake that everything a pol believes personally is also policy.
I knew there were lots of snow flakes up there, but I didn't know there were so many of the other kind too.
I attended Assembly of God churches for some years back in the early to mid 1970s, first in Columbia, Missouri, and then in Springfield, Missouri, where the headquarters of the Assembly of God denomination is located. I even lived for a time on the campus of what was then called Evangel College, an AG institution in Springfield that was actually quite a fascinating place if you had the right attitude about the basis of the curriculum. I was an intriguing and life-influencing experience, and ultimately led to my agnosticism.
Did I experience speaking in tongues? Boy did I, as well as faith healing and some of the most remarkable preaching in all of Christendom. You really haven't experienced Pentacostalism if you haven't attended a number of services where half the congregation is caught up in the raptures of glossolalia whipped up by the preaching of a fiery, hell-for-leather pastor who's just finished a rousing round of faith healing. This crowd, which I readily admit included me, was all for the Rapture, even though they only had Hal Lindsey's "The Late Great Planet Earth" to point to in terms of mainstream exposure of the idea at the time. And as for the End Times, they were certain to be on the horizon at the turn of every significant global event, particularly if it involved Israel.
After a while, though, all this sound and fury began to pall. I had to get on with life, and chose a path that led me very much away from all the sound and fury of the Charismatic Movement - for so it was known at the time. (Is it still? I haven't checked lately.) The End Times continue to defy prediction as to when they will occur - just as Jesus himself very pointedly warned would be the case - and the reasonably coherent arguments of Lindsey have been replaced by the laughable fictionalizations of LaHaye and Jenkins. (Oh yes, I've read those things, God bless 'em!)
This, then, is what I see undergirding Sarah Palin's religious perspective. She's more than entitled to it, and I don't know why it should disqualifying her to lead this country as such - a guy with my background could hardly say otherwise - but if that's where her view of the world stops, we could be in big trouble.
But, have you ever seen these churches where people speak in tongues and "drive out demons?" It's really bizarre. It reminds me of the way, when I was a child, me and my friends would play pretend games and sometimes convince ourselves they were real. Like we saw a UFO, or Joe's basement is haunted, for real.
Heard ya the first two times Rupert LOL! Just kidding.
I've been to about 5 AoG meetings (to please a boss at the time who insisted I check it out). I have to say, there were parts of the service that were inspirational, and the music at this particular assembly was very good. But when the speaking in tongues thing broke out I started to get a little freaked. I was amazed however at the ability of some of these "speakers"; I listened carefully for say, a repetition of a phrase which would betray a practiced gibberish rant, and could hardly detect one. "Speakers" however, were clearly a chosen few and picked ahead of time though the premise was that they broke out into ancient language upon feeling inspiration. At this particular church they also did the "Laying of Hands" where the preacher and elders surrounded a parishoner and after listening to his particular problem, would relieve him of his malady by the preacher laying his hand on sufferer's head while saying a prayer to exorcise his demons. The sinner would invariably fall backwards onto the floor (the Elders were there for the sole purpose of catching him) writhing and convulsing-really sometimes quite pitifully- and then would rise and victoriously pronounce himself cured. I did notice that it was the same "sinners" every week with garden-variety ailments-alchoholism, cheating....
I met once with the minister- a charicature of Pentacostal intolerance and insecurity dressed in expensive clothing and obviously doing quite well. I recall another spooky episode where during the service, he said something about how he knew who was tything and exactly how much. And though I don't recall the specific threat attached, it really scared me.
I know that no particular assembly necessarily represents an entire Denomination, Maybe Palin's is/was quite different, but I would not be comfortable with such people holding power in such a large and diverse country.
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