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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
How about the simple fact that parents whose teenage daughters get pregnant have NOT done a very good job of parenting? Isn't it fair to look at this situation and, instead of congratulating the Palin's on standing by their daughter, conclude that if they had done their jobs better the daughter's life would not have been RUINED???
And I LOVE the speculation that Bristol may have used contraception which failed. FAT CHANCE! The failure here is in parents who failed to teach their daughter how to take care of herself because of their stupid moral beliefs. Shame on them!
If she's 5 months pregnant, and were really planning on getting married before the story broke, why aren't they married yet?
Oh tiberius do I have to tell you what every other sane poster on this site has already reminded you:
That slime grows on the bottom of rocks and your mama's calling you home, boy. Your little lower-case name with it's air du petit legionnaire is so piquant, n'est-çe pas?
Please, go find some traffic. Play.
birds of a feather, circle the wagons, etc.. groups ALWAYS give their own a free pass. this applies to any group. it only encourages steadfastness.
the parents didn't reject bristol and they didn't end the pregnancy, all making them appear noble and consistent to their supporters.
avoid talking sex; talk baby.
bristol had straight sex, making it a superior state than lesbianism, which would be a choice anyway, right?. (would they reject an out gay child?)
Is there a case for statutory rape here
McCain/Palin could have used a dozen method of showing that Gov. Palin was the baby's mother (DNA test, birth certificate, statements from doctors and friends, pictures taken of Bristol when she was supposed to have been pregnant, etc). Instead, they choose to throw Bristol Palin into the spotlight as a way to protect Gov. Palin's street cred with the pro-life crowd.
The point was not that the child wasn't Gov. Palin's. The point was that she took a real-life, pro-life stand, putting her money where her mouth was. They couldn't risk that credibility being undermined by the possibility that it was her daughter who made the decision.
This ugly, sanctimonious, and expedient choice by McCain and Bristol's mother places a greater burden on Bristol than would keeping it quiet as long as possible. But they couldn't afford to risk an October Surprise, when Bristol will be 7 or 8 months pregnant and perhaps married under suspicious circumstances. Instead, they use the opportunity to blame the "liberal bloggers" for exposing Bristol's pregnancy.
It was their own cynicism, or perhaps their own incompetence in selecting a different way of proving the maternity of Gov. Palin's child, that violated Bristol's privacy. The fawning media should be pointing that out instead of talking about how brave the McCain/Palin campaign is.
Isn't this some sort of tribal mountain tradition? Forced marriages? Why haven't any of these commentators brought out the old "shotgun marriage" phrase? This is the time and place, you know.
Seriously, forcing teenagers to marry teenagers is pre-modern stuff, right? It's cool if the nobles do it?
Worth a thousand ~ indeed it is; as they often are. thanks.
An extra~ordinary Labor Day, one might say of this year of 2008. Goodness, news travels quickly on the internet!
On that note, Senator Obama's statement on Palin's family "troubles" and his action of redirecting his website donation fund to hurricane gustav's damage, that would be an action of a true leader for you, my fellow Americans.
Sending your wife(ves) out to speak for your grand selves, whilst you hover behind a desk in Texas (or cower under some bunker in an undisclosed location) and pretend to order people around; Hell and Damnation, I hate to think it but I saw almost felt sorry for Shrub & Darth today.
(not really)
Because today, at least, I am left to conclude there really is something to that whole you reap what you sow quote I heard once, in a fairy tale.
(praise the lord -n- pass the ammo) i still do not see the whites of their eyes.
doing some recreational drugs tonight? That's some pretty free form, ie fucking nuts, writing you have going on there.
if you ever come close to having a child please abort it. more of your dna is something the world doesn't need.
So the Republican vice presidential candidate has 5 kids, one an infant with Down's Syndrome and another one 17 and pregnant? And we're supposed to believe that if something happened to McCain that she, as superwoman, would be able to assume the role of president, juggle the demands of her large family AND focus all of her attention on running the country? Even if her husband is stay at home dad of the year, a family this large and complex requires a lot of time and devotion to raise - more, I would say, than what one parent could provide. Which brings me to two equally disturbing conclusions- either the affairs of the country would take a back seat to Palin's family life or her family life would take a back seat to the affairs of the country. Either way, this is not a very confidence inspiring scenario.
The DailyKos piece raised two primary questions of fact:
1. Did Gov. Palin actually give birth to Trigg? 2. Is Bristol pregnant now?
The first question raises serious questions of fitness for national office. The second question...not so much.
The Alaska governor chose to use an acknowledgement of question #2 as an unconvincing denial of question #1. In doing so, they sacrificed the privacy of their daughter and her boyfriend.
Question #1 will not go away.
how many kids did rfk have when he ran? how would he have been able to handle the presidency?
why is it different for a woman?
because it is different for a woman, you twit.
haven't you noticed ?
I've been thinking for some time that this was going to be one of the weirdest presidential elections in modern history. They've all been weird in various ways, but the *intensity* of the weirdness is striking.
Partly it's the extremism of the contemporary GOP: they've all lost their minds, from a policy point-of-view, and this kind of extremism inevitably leads to some very weird shit.
Partly it's McCain's secret knowledge that he's going to lose this one. Whether he does, or he doesn't, he seems to think he's going to lose, and so do his people. The GOP seems to be angling for what happens after he loses, with an eye to making the Obama presidency a failure. That would be typical of them, too.
When people get extreme, weird things happen. I don't think we've seen the end of the weirdness by any means, either.
Don't ever think for one second that the GOP "loves this Country." First of all, they don't have the faintest idea what this country is supposed to stand for. Ben Franklin would have laughed until he gagged at these monarchists. The GOP would be much happier, as a group, in Putin's Russia.
The GOP will always put its own benefit ahead of "the Country." Cindy McCain's freudian slip illustrated that fact perfectly. McCain's "country first" is just more cynical bullshit from a campaign that should be choking on the eyebrow-deep bovine-waste in which they are buried.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
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