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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
For a relatively "short speech" (compared to Mr.Clinton's) she
did well BUT I received the impression that it was a presidential speech for Hillary not for Obama. The TV camera glance at Mrs. Obama also convey to me the message that she
(Mrs Obama)was wondering what was Hillary trying to do with a
speech where the emphasis was how good Hillary was for the country.
The last 2 minutes were the obligatory "endorsement" of Obama
but truly I believe that her heart was not on it.
Oh the noes! I am teh hilary. I am. My identity. I'm not doing it right! waa. Srsly. Waa. doom. gloom. no bloom. just doom, and gloom and gloom and doom and no room for the broom. waa.
That's all you got, you pikey whiner? Jeebus, Mary and Joseph on a popsicle stick with a quickness.
I think it'll be easier to just point and laugh at your posts. Hillary is not the nominee. She is 100% behind Barack Obama, the nominee. This is not going to be a cake walk. Even the Second Coming (to some of you) of her highness herself wouldn't make this a cake walk. HALF OF THIS COUNTRY ELECTED THE DRY DRUNK FAILURE FRAT BOY....TWICE!!!!! Playing on fear is always more effective. They'll be in it. Count on it.
Obama/Biden '08, Hillary as an effective as all get out Senator...gunning for Majority Leader whenever.
Obama is not perfect. Bill Clinton was not perfect...far from it. Hillary is not perfect...she listened to Mark fucking Penn...Mr. caucuses-schmaucuses...(by the way, how many of you are writing and calling and fighting to abandon caucuses for the 2012 primary...or are you going to wait until your choice loses (NOT LOOSES!) then, too, before complaining?
is to fight corruption and injustice even when it requires personal sacrifice.
The Democratic caucus vote is a travesty of democracy and an insult to everyone who believes in one person/one vote and to those who believe in choosing a winner by popular vote.
1) Since 2005, Obama's PAC has donated $710,900 to superdelegates, more than three times as much as Clinton's PAC has. Her PAC distributed $236,100 to superdelegates during the three-year period.
The study found that the presidential candidate who gave more money to the superdelegates received their endorsements 82 percent of the time. That's based on a review of elected officials who are serving as superdelegates and who'd endorsed a candidate as of Feb. 25.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31905.html
2) Hillary wins the popular vote in Nevada and Texas yet Obama gets more delegates in both states.
3) North Carolina, which holds its primary Tuesday, got an additional 24 delegates for moving its presidential nominating contest from April to May. Indiana, which also has its primary Tuesday, got six extra delegates for keeping its primary in May.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/campaign_delegates;_ylt=Anh_EB4axu1.o2AbNobVRHUDW7oF
Since using the caucus vote which was created in Iowa in 1972, the Democrats have lost every presidential election but 3.
I can not and will not continue to support a corrupt system that rewards only those in power especially when it has proven to be such an utter failure.
To all of the alleged "PUMA"s posting here on Salon: please go over to Rush Limbaugh's blog and post there.
There are no PUMA's, people, these are Republicans who are impersonating disgruntled Democrats. No one in thier right mind would go from supporting Hillary to supporting McCain.
You might be interested to know that African-American delegates responded to Hillary's speech the same as everyone else in the convention hall, i.e. rapturous cheering and applause.
Clinton looked great and sounded terrific, it only she'd directly addressed the elephant in the room (carefully chosen metaphor!) with a comment like, "We've all heard about the PUMAs, but make no mistake - people withholding support from Barack Obama and the Democratic Party because they're unhappy with my losing the nomination are hurting me and all the causes I support, including women's rights. We've come through a long, grueling, and sometimes bitter campaign, but it's taught all of us a lot of things, and one of the things I've learned is that Senator Obama is a brilliant strategist, a formidable opponent, and will surely be ready to lead this nation on day one."
Type in English and I'd be delighted to respond.
to dataguyx.
I thought Hillary gave a rousing speech, a genuine summary of her desires for a Democratic White House. I think anything more would have been perceived as insincere by the convention and television audience.
McCain has been chipping away at Obama's credentials with ad after ad. I have seen a few ads from Obama but certainly not the onslaught we've had from McCain. I thought Obama had a huge war chest. Why isn't he using it? Obama must return McCain's volley with more advertising, clever and pointed advertising. If Obama wants to run a strictly positive campaign, he will not be elected...Americans will assume he is too soft for the White House. He needs to point out his rival's reversals on policies, his hypocrisy evident with the big lobbyist face in his campaign, his courting of the oil companies, blah, blah, blah. Also, I believe this convention has been too cerebral. I enjoyed the Montana governor...that's the kind of rabble rousing this convention needs. My assessment: it is too toned down in Denver. Additionally, Obama's acceptance speech in a large arena is going to give McCain another chance to claim that Obama is only a celebrity figure, not a real candidate with political savvy.
I can not and will not continue to support a corrupt system that rewards only those in power especially when it has proven to be such an utter failure.
-- sonofloud
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sonoflop, your endless primary temper tantrum just jumped the shark.
How obvious can these fake Democrats be?
Granted the dubious assumption that at least SOME of these people truly are Democrats who are just unable to get over their disappointment at Hillary's loss, I say, buck up and GET OVER IT! I wanted Paul Simon to be the nominee in 1988, but guess what? Cue the Rolling Stones (You Can't Always Get...). I understand that it would have meant a lot to them to have the first woman president. Guess what? I'd like to see an openly gay male president, but it's not likely to happen any time soon, and nor am I going to shoot myself in the foot by refusing to support a Democrat.
Am I the only one who nearly wanted to gag when that one woman was expressing her ecstasy after Hillary's speech? Can you say self-involved and a little creepy? If her murmurings had been recorded as part of the end of a Duran Duran song, they would have edited that part out for the radio cut, I'm pretty sure! And she's a "good Democrat" in her own words, even though she might stay home, pout and vote for no one, because her choice was not nominated? Sad indeed.
And I do agree that most of these so-called PUMA's are not Democrats at all. Just do some Googling on it and you'll uncover some of the crumb trails they have left that lead back to the Rethugs.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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