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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Thanks for this great wrap-up of Michelle Obama's speech. I missed it because I don't have cable TV. This really conveyed what it was like.
just lying. No one has blamed whites for everything. The answers gave a historicla facts to debunk the arguement that affirmative-action is the only reason why Barack and Michelle Obama are where they are at. It also was use to show the hypocrisy that some whites (if you would have read I tried to put in parenthesis some whites) desplay when they talk about affirmative-action.
The fact of the matter is that when the primaries first started Hillary polled better with blacks then Barack. It was after Iowa and before Ted Kennedy endorse Barack that people of all races begin to jump on the Obama bandwagon. Then Ms. Kennedy say she like other people were inspired by Obama like her father inspired others.
What supporters like me dislike about your opinions is that when you talk about history you don't like to do it in context of a racist society. You want to use explosive words like "Blame." It is the truth nit wit.
Yes families like the Kennedy like alot of families of wealth in this country were doing some within that could be viewed as wrong. But what you fail to also mention is that many blacks were left out all together. Ms. McCain's father was able to invest in ways many black grandfathers and fathers were not. George Bush's grandfather did business with the Nazis and you say nothing. Blacks couldn't even get into the game not because they were not qualified but because of race. Now you may not like that fact but that is the truth.
The difference between the Kennedys and people like you is that they were in touch and influnced by great people like Dr. King, Megar Evers,Fannie Lue Hamer, A Philip Randolp and other where they wanted to extend the same access to opportunities.
Barack and Michelle are like so many African-Americans who will excel in spite of people like you.
The Obama campaign had to hire a team to try and soften the image of Michelle Obama who has been known to have ambiguous feelings about her country. Even though she was the beneficiary of a scholarship paid by our tax money, she wrote in her Princeton thesis that this country was founded on murders and crimes and many other comments which showed her she had for many years an ax to grind. After a choreographed performance and extremely well written speech, she has conquered the hearts of many americans who believe in beautiful words delivered with mastery. Forgotten are the 20 years of listening to Pastor Wright hateful rhetoric against the U.S. and Israel without a protest by Michelle Obama.When she said at the end of her speech,"God bless America" I couldn't forget the words of Pastor Wright "God Bless America No NO NO, God damn America". Some americans are so naive and believe everything.
i knew i couldn't say both that affirmative action got on my nerves, and that i wasn't for barack obama's policies, on salon.com and not get called a racist. i remembered that, somewhere in the back of my mind. this forum is useless. you know what? some black people are actually against affirmation action because they think it's unfair, unjust, and calls the achievements of blacks into question and therefore we'd all be better off without it. what do you make of that? they are total racists and oppressors!
Once again I am completely blown away by your latest post. That was absolutely fantastic.
I guess it isn't earth shattering stuff to the learned feminist, but as a neophyte who is learning bit by bit, your analysis of corporate feminism really opened my eyes. As a lifelong dilletante socialist I don't know why I never looked at feminism through the prism of labour, but there ya go...
damn you for reaffirming my faith in this online community! Now I'm just going to go and have to get disappointed all over again!!
Obviously there wasn't so much wrong with the largely Republican administrations under which Michelle and Barak grew up that prevented them and their families from living the American Dream, right up to the DNC. Obviously enough opportunity was spared the working man in the "world as it is" that it didn't require saving and restoration to the "world as it should be" by the likes of Barak and Biden. Obviously their lives and professed histories belie their politics and professed mission.
The objection is the presumptions inherenet in your statements - that the Obama's must be beneficiaries of affirmative action and that all such beneficiaries are undeserving.
Maybe if you looked past your own sense of victimization (as so many people here should) then you could see the logic that is plain as day.
Going by your estimation those blacks that are complaining about affirmative-action also benefitted from affirmative-action so I would call them hypocrites. If those blacks went to school then the only reason they got there under your example is because some white who scored 20 points more then them got bumped. Right?
You are funny Buck> LOL YOu think blacks are less qualified until they agree with you.
Again you only talk about blacks receiving affirmative-action. As Libertyson said, the people who benefit the most from affirmative-action are white women.
Most of the set-aside programs go to minority companies owned by white women. In fact if you have a wife or daughter go tell them to give back the scholorship money and the job because most likely under your thinking some white male was bumped out.
results of affirmation action:
al roker's daughter gets a 155 on the LSAT and a full ride to Harvard Law school
poor white person gets a 180 and 200,000 in debt.
this is truly the essence of fairness. i don't know what i'm complaining about. i should just let my family's wealth and all that racist oppression i engage in for sport console me.
and to the poster, libertyson, who thinks they know about law school by just like, looking at some from the street: race is considered in selection for law review. it certainly was at my school, which was a prestigious institution ranked in the top 5 by us news and world report.
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