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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I laugh when people imply they will 'hold their nose' and vote McCain! If you support high gas prices, wars with Russia and Iran, and helping get more jobs to China, then by all means vote for McCain and be glad about it. If you're voting McCain because you so hate Obama for beating Hillary, Uh, OK, you're a child. Guess what? I am a registered independent who never in a million years would vote for either Hillary or McCain. Why? Because they are self-serving kajillionair morons! Sure Obama may be as self-serving as anyone, but at least he wants to make his mark by doing something big for the country, not just big business. As a small business owner, I will get a tax CUT under Obama, and a tax increase under McCain. Both have already made their positions clear. The alleged Hillary supporters reveal why we are lucky she didn't win; It's all about her/them, and screw everyone else. Plus, she wouldn't have a chance against McCaine.
Belly - My father flew fighter jets in Viet Nam. During his 23 year career, he did not crash a single plane, mush less get shot down and confess to war crimes. (Yes, if you accept the Guantanamo confessions, you have to accept McCaine's). My father passed away some years ago. The man my mother has been with since that time once held the record for the most combat missions flown in SE Asia in an F-4 Phantom. I say SE Asia, as that includes VN, Cambodia, Laos and he even chased Migs into Chinese airspace once! Again, he never crashed a single plane. McCain got to where he was because of his father. He was a crap soldier and a lousy pilot. He got to where he is because of his newer, hotter, much richer wife. If someone is supposed to keep me safe, I'd prefer it not be the guy who got shot down first time out.
Oh, and 911 happened on Bush/McCaine's watch.
Please, let the McCain campaign bring up Biden in the 80s.
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Keating Five
SaltyPappy, comments like yours should be enough to get many Democrats who are considering holding their noses and voting Republican to think twice.
Hope your boy doesn't choose Romney or we'll have months of arguing about the sins of the Mormon church vs. the Catholic church, when many of us strongly believe that discussion of a candidate's religion does not belong in a U.S. election and has no bearing on the problems facing the country.
To quote you for those who missed your remarks:
We Conservatives were hoping for Biden. I am betting the Obamaniacs haven't even considered the huge conflict with the Catholic Church that is now coming... For the Dimocrats (party of the radical feminists, homosexuals, Marxists, athiests, uneducated, lazy, illegals) Biden is a solid pick.
The most telling comment coming out of the Biden as VP news cycle comes from John McCain.
Biden's "kitchen table" comment regarding McCain's inability to remember how many houses he has and how out of touch he is with the reality of life in the "middle class" (or what is left of it) touched a key failure of McCain's.
When asked by Katie Couric of CBS about the comment McCain's response, as incredible as it may seem was Noun--Verb--POW--my wife is rich.
HOW SAD that over 40% of likely voters believe this mean-spirited, free-loading, feeble old man is worthy of leading our country.
And, just a post-script...
When polling "likely voters" the pollsters pull from lists of registered voters who have voted in the past two elections. NOWHERE are the pollsters including the millions of newly registered Democrats brought into the process by Senator Obama.
In my state (NC) alone the R's have registered 69,000 to the D's 270,000 since January--that's about a 4:1 advantage.
If McCain were a Democrat, the Republicans (or their proxies) would be smearing his fighter pilot abilities (only an incompetent gets shot down) and digging up someone to shoot holes in his POW narrative (he was really a coward, not so tough, etc.). And they'd get away with it.
I was there also, along with my husband and 2 children. No doubt it was hot. My daughter and I were inside the gates close to the stage. My husband and son bailed and went to the Lincoln Museum and then were perfectly happy to watch on the Jumbo Tron (my son is autistic no way would he have been able to deal with being with that crowd, but we knew that and made adjustments accordingly.)
That being said, it was a great experience and I am happy we were part of it, especially for my daughter. We need our young people to know that ultimately, they have the power and together, we can change the world.
There is no substitute for "being there". Plus we got some good ribs afterwards at the ribfest outside the gate.
Thank you for your service to our country, sir.
Times have not changed. The salon posters are still attacking each other for comments. Realistically, it does not matter what we think since we a meager sampling of the voting public.
Joe Biden after his last failed attempt at running for President garnered less than 10,000 votes during the primary season. Yet, he is going to make a great partner to Barack Obama and make
the election of this ticket a "no brainer." Time and the election will only tell us if this choice was the right one, or the choice of someone whose main concern his entire life was to be President of the United States no matter what the cost might be.
I will not make up my mind by a Vice President candidate, but the person running for President.
Did Obama pick Biden as VP, or Biden wearing Clinton's lipstick, pearls and pantsuit on, hailed as a "fighter" from "Scranton, PA"?
My first reaction to the Biden pick is that Obama must have a pathological grudge against Clinton to go to such lengths to avoid her when he needs her base and the things she could do for him if only she were on his ticket. While it's hard to read between the lines of the well-coordinated propaganda supporting Obama's pick, I think many are dismayed not by the Biden pick, but by the way the Obama campaign seems to dress him up for her voters. Picking Biden in itself makes sense if Obama weren't going to follow through with his risky "transformative change" ticket, and if he weren't going to pick Clinton. But putting Clinton's lipstick, earrings and pearls on him and lauding him up with words interchangeable with Clinton's resurgent campaign seems ghoulishly like that guy in Psycho with his dead mother in the upstairs bedroom.
A spate of unsettled articles today, like Frank Rich's attempt to explain away why Obama has dropped any pretense anymore of being a "change" or "transcendent" "new politics" leader, indicates a broad but subtle falling away from Obama's vision by the more progressive members of his base. They will support him, but they aren't in love with him, anymore. His Biden pick and how he's dressing Biden up as Clinton, is fundamentally at odds with Obama's core message, themes, and marketing of himself, and too creepy a reprise of Clinton.
With his VP pick, Obama's switched from a "change" and "new politics" ticket to an "old politics white senior DC pol who knows what he's teaching the young president" ticket. Obama also compromised his "new politics means I won't take cynical positions" earlier this Summer with a series of flip flops, including breaking his federal election funding pledge and other reversals that surprised the left winger progressives. Obama's deeply negative dive into spouse attacks cements the fall of Obama from the pedestal of his "new politics" rhetoric this Spring. Thus his perfect-worlder rhetoric has met reality, about 3 months after the end of primary season.
Obama won't be forthcoming with new specifics about his transformative "new politics" as his media fans have been suggesting he do since bombing at Saddleback. After his inability to make the "transformative change" "new politics" campaign more specific and substantial this Summer, Obama's suddenly dropped it, reformulating his campaign as an enhanced Hillary Clinton Spring 2008 one.
Let's look now at the subject of the game-changing everyone knew Obama needed. Obama's now going to fight for the middle on substantive debates over issues. There are problems with Obama starting a new campaign and pose as Hillary Clinton this late in the election, but let's ignore that for now. Biden will do foreign affairs and politics stuff and handle the blue collar appeal. It's my guess that Obama will tackle the economy and the post-convention campaign will be an attack on the Bush economy and McCain's weaknesses there. While Obama has made some missteps in unveiling his reformulation of his campaign that is a reprise of Hillary's, his post-convention campaign will definitely be more issue-focused and more substantive than that which went before.
It's my feeling, going forward, that McCain will have to fight a campaign on several fronts: attacks from Biden in foreign affairs and political matters and a campaign against the Bush economy and McCain's economic and social programs from Obama. If (or WHEN) the energy supply/demand problem rears its ugly head, McCain and Obama will be battling there, too.
This brings to the fore another interesting strength in Obama's new substance campaign: McCain continues to struggle with the right wing in attempts to pivot to the center in an election year where the whole country is swept with anti-Republican sentiment. The fact is that McCain spends more time arguing and defending and fighting with his base on litmus test issues in which the right wing remains entrenched in some deeply unpopular stands than he spends getting effective messages out about his great energy platform, for example, and Obama's poised to hit him right at that issue-focus weakness.
Indeed, with his campaign reformulation, Obama is shifting the battleground to those areas in which McCain is fighting the right ideologues on his flank, every day. This is a potentially critical problem for McCain, as he continues to be pinned down both from the "McJeering" left and the passive aggressive right wingers on energy, climate change, economic and other platform fronts.
One last point: whether this new Obama package is worth electing. Why not just elect Clinton or McCain, instead of a high-powered, dressed up lightweight imitation of an experienced, substantial, ready-to-lead centrist? So many times, excellent, prepared centrists get pushed aside during primary season, so that the general election's a choice between the lesser of two evils.
In some election years it makes sense to elect the party and not the person. I believe that this decade, "change" will be forced on us whether we want it or not. Our country, in order to face and deal with the changes that global growth and environmental dislocations are forcing on us, will need a bipartisan, pragmatic independent thinker with depth of experience, clear thinking tendencies and freedom from ideological impulses. Fortunately, there is a candidate like that being nominated this year.
For the last 8 years Democrats wished that, instead of the ideological and lightweight Bush who had dressed himself up as a centrist for the general election and posited the vague notion of a "compassionate conservative", McCain had instead won the 2000 Republican primary. Well, McCain did win the primary this year. I'd rather be voting for Clinton this Fall, but if I can't, I'll vote for McCain, the next best -- real -- pragmatic centrist candidate ready to lead.
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