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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Where did all the real feminists go - why are they not defending Michelle Obama against slurs worse than Mrs Clinton ever heard?
I have defended Michelle Obama against certain slurs but for the most part the criticism against her doesn't seem to be primarily sexist as it was against Hillary Clinton.
Feminism is about the rights of women but I don't see it as being compelled to defend every woman no matter what. When I see sexism directed towards women, I tend to defend them.
So is there some particular sexist attack directed towards Michelle Obama to are referring? How as sexist slurs are they worse than Hillary Clinton has endured? Have the said she is "pimping out" her daughters?
Well it would help him get their votes, but, Uncle Fester, if he doesn't need their votes, then what's the problem?
He need not nominate her.
So what votes do you think he will draw that will make up for the votes that he could draw by nominating her?
Who does BO need to win? The Clintons!
(A Guide for those who don't have time to read every Shpiro article):
Who will kill BO's chances? The Clintons!
Who does BO NEED as VP? The Clintons!
Who must BO avoid at all costs as VP? The Clintons!
Who ensured BO's victory as nom? The Clintons!
Who almost killed his chances as nom? The Clintons!
If BO wins it will be because of...The Clintons!
If BO loses it will be because of...The Clintons!
Who is Satan? The Clintons!
Who is God? The Clintons!
Who Clintons Clinton Clintoned? The Clintons!
Who Hillaries Bill? The Clintons!
Who Bills Hillary? The Clintons!
And for the Zen enthusiast...
What is the Clinton of one Clinton Clintoning?
Salon is weeping all the way to the bank.
With articles and letters like these, Salon is rapidly surpassing The Onion as my go-to comedy website! Keep up the "good" work! And keep writing those "insightful" letters, everyone!
Most of us who were Clinton primary voters but who think McCain would be a marginally to much better president than Barack Dukakis are just enjoying watching the train wreck. Contributing to it even.
Latest polls say we're about half of the undecideds.
Well it would help him get their votes, but, Uncle Fester, if he doesn't need their votes, then what's the problem?
Hi AKA good to hear from you. I have no special insight into the Obama Camp's thinking, but it would seem to be a basic calculation to chose the VP that brought you the most news votes while losing the least. It could be they feel Biden (or whomever) results in a larger net net. Thinking that Hillary only brings positives would be wishful thinking.
I'd be willing to bet everything I have that if Hillary was the presumptie nominee, she and her handlers would let NOTHING come between her and her moment of glory.
Her supporters are crybabies. Apparently I'm in tha Hillary demographic but I voted for Barack in the primary. And don't want to see more of HC at the convention - or Bill.
I really liked him until this campaign and then I had to face the facts about the two of them, that they would do or say anything to win.
I really liked him until this campaign and then I had to face the facts about the two of them, that they would do or say anything to win.
I wonder if you know how dumb that sounds
I'm not sure what has been said w/regard to Michelle Obama lately, they have been on vacation and before that, since really before the New Yorker cover, the campaign has had her keep a much, much lower profile, and the focus of media and Republican comments has shifted directly to Barak Obama. It may not be a good thing over all for future Democratic political spouses if they feel they are forced to lower her profile but I don't think that's what is being referred to here.
If the poster is still concerned about why more people didn't 'speak up' earlier, I can only repeat something I posted on this topic in June:
"The problem is that we are discussing it in the context of people in positions of power, not necessarily the everyday stuff that you and I worry about. That also involves power, but, generally, not national political power. So, we have a limited set of people to actually choose from to discuss and the one who has been through it most recently is Senator Clinton, but, she's not supposed to be discussed because it opens up a can of worms with people who, well, want her to go away and never come back as a topic of conversation, at least.
We can, as other people have noted, expand this to a discussion of Presidential spouses or nominees spouses. The problem I find with this is that when you start discussing it several things happen. First, you get the comparisons, quite genuine, to prior spouses of nominees and Presidents. The problem is that one is Senator Clinton. There is then screaming that it's still all about Hillary. However, this is a very fair comparison to make, many of us who sat through this in 1992 and 1996 recall it all. We also recall 2004 and Teresa Heinz Kerry.
Also, you may not recall this but some us tried to sound a warning during the primaries that it would get ugly - in terms of sexism - for Michelle Obama in the general and used not only Senator Clinton's experience but that of Teresa Heinz Kerry as examples. We were either told (and I love this) that there were no words that were really sexist anymore (mostly from the younger posters, who use many terms that would be regarded as sexist to refer to men) or that Senator Clinton and THK deserved it (they were referring to Senator Clinton back in 1992 and 1996, not now, but that shouldn't matter) so it didn't count. I am truly sad that my prediction came true regarding Michelle Obama and what was waiting but I got tired of the insanity. I think many, but not all on both sides are fairly guilty of not giving a sh*t until it happened to someone they identified with."
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