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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
"I don't think they can afford to rain on Obama's convention. Their 18 million (a myth that Keith Olberman quickly exposed - you know, numbers and the Clintons have a strange relationship - even rules - remember Florida and Michigan) has dwindled down to less than 40,000, a mere drop in the bucket of Clinton groundswell. When they tried to strongarm Obama into giving Hillary a VP spot with the VoteBoth campaign, all they could muster was 40,000 signatures.
Hopefully, the Clintons will behave and get behind the candidate. Not doing so, will jeopardize her Senate seat come re-election.
-- madamfauntleroy
I hope you and Keith Olberman are right about the numbers and the poll by NBC that only 52 percent of Hillary supporters are backing Obama contributing to the drop in support for him in the polls. Fortunately, the convention is around the corner to remind Democrats to put any bitterness behind them and come together to put Obama in the white house. Comments such as these from Keith Olberman and yourself are not helpful.
Klytus
No silence. I sent money; my husband sent money; my sister-in-law sent money. So, can you spare a few dimes?
AKA
I really enjoy your posts. You are alway reasonable, thoughtful, and respectful. Thanks for making reading Salon's letters so enjoyable and useful.
I have nowhere to go.... for me it has never been else but Hillary..... Donah//// (from the Canary Islands)
I wouldn't count Hillary out. Her star is far from fallen.
Everybody is having a good time, Klytus but with you aboard it stinks again. Get stuffed soldier... go back to your unit soldier .... and die !! Oh I forgot.... you're on AWOL...
And I'm telling you this much... It'll be at Denver or else but all target shooters are on post... and so are the boing boing girls.... Toodeloo !!
Now that we know it is Biden lets all put our motors into idle and let the next few days pass quietly. Hillary should do the good soldier routine and then step into the shadows. Bill should thank everyone and recognize his days in the sun are over. For better or worse it is a new group in the Democratic limelight and as the poet said "young blood must have it's course lad and every dog his day". Hillary supporters should have the grace to accept the things they can not change and move on. With the naming of Biden there is closure and part of that must be for Bill and Hillary to shrink their profiles and join the ranks of enthusiastic supporters. Its over. Move on.
Thank you, uncle Fester, thank you.... I'll tell Hillary !! Donah////
I knew it 24 hrs ago looking at Hillary's body language, I saw it in her eyes. 'Sorry I couldn't/didn't tell you.... matter of ethics.... but we'll be there.... What a nite.... Donah////
So exciting ...
I was browsing around various sites tonight and came across a forum I had not seen before. Posting there were Hillary supporters who were intensely interested in Barack Obama's VP choice. They had been quite worried for days that he would choose Hillary Clinton and expressed great relief that it was Biden instead.
Quite interesting. They hated the thought of Hillary Clinton being chosen as Obama's vice president more than the worst Clinton haters here.
My hope is after the convention that Hillary will be able to spend much time at home. I watched a clip of her campaigning on Obama's behalf in Santa Fe recently. She came on stage and Bill Richardson rushed to hug her with both arms open. I imagine first ladies have have a great deal of experience deflecting unwanted hugs and she certainly deftly deflected his.
Now that Obama has Biden who will be campaigning for him and now that the Clintons are about to perform their campaign duties, the Obama supporters who so hate her should be glad to see her fade from the scene for awhile. I certainly hope that they don't want to keep her around for the whole purpose of brutalizing her efforts.
I never could understand how the same people here in Salon threads who called her a racist had the gall to demand that she campaign for Obama. You would think that they wouldn't want her to do so.
Linda-english, thank you for your kind words. However, there are many people who do not share your enthusiasm for my writing or my opinion.
Good night all you folks who are still waiting for your text message and marvelling at Obama's ability to control leaks.
Uncle Fester. You compare Biden's presidential following to Hillary's following with ease. Reality says something else. Biden got 1% of Iowa delegates before dropping out. You should follow politics with that kind of spin you spun.
Dismiss the numbers Hillary represents while inflating those that Biden represents. It's a good strategy to dismiss facts. At any rate, Biden is VP. Now the balloon will be slowly leaking....
No Linda I can't spare a few dimes. I do though believe that with a more than adequate bank account publically revealed for the record to be somewhere around 109 million dollars worth of wealth - the Clintons should have no difficulty doing away with the debt themselves - from out of their own pockets if need be.
My money will be spent on the future, on a needed as maybe neccessary basis, for putting the democratic winner in the white house.
"The rest of us" you mean those section of the Democratic party who all of a sudden because of Obama realized that the Senator from New York, the former first lady who senate colleagues hold in high regard, is now "untrustworthy, divisive and phony." Wow, how was she able to pull more than 18 million voters equal to Obama, the rock, perfection incarnated and more than 10 times Biden his obvious choice for V.P?
See, that's the funny thing. I hardly think he's perfection incarnate so you can drop the strawman. What I saw was Hillary, who was expected to be crowned Queen at the start of the Primaries, who was the insider favorite, who had the war chest and the heavy contacts within the DNC, who was a name brand thanks to her husband, go down in flames from a charismatic rookie. That should show you just how fragile your precious candidate really is.
But alas, I should speak badly of her majesty so off with my head!
As for raising millions she is now in the hole for just that amount and can't seem to get bailed out by her supposedly loyal following of "18 million". Go figure.
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