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Friday, August 22, 2008 12:00 AM

How Obama can be the un-Kerry in Denver

Three veteran Democrats game out the Democratic and Republican conventions. Beware of PUMAs!

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Sunday, August 24, 2008 02:54 PM

Bill Maher where are you.....

"Kamarck: The worst thing that can happen at a convention is that it can in fact turn into an actual decision-making convention. The worst thing that can happen at a convention is that it can be real. That is almost always a harbinger of bad things to come."

This may be the conventional wisdom (pun intended) but it undermines the democratic process. Isn't the point -- other than winning -- of the Obama campaign to change things? We regular people out here want to see a convention where it isn't carefully orchestrated and the message rigidly controlled and the passion completely absent. We want to argue or have our surrogates argue about the plank like in the old days and have people say what they truly believe and vote as truly want to vote. And we want demonstrations right there in front of us not off in a pen somewhere. Conventions without decision making are boring, contrived, and frankly disheartening.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 06:04 PM

@ZENHEAD

"Center Democrats" = Neocons

The Democratic Party's troubles can be traced DIRECTLY with trying to out-Republican the Republicans, not with being "Too Liberal/Left". If the Democratic Party would finally embrace it's LIBERAL credentials, finally talk of REVERSING the Patriot Act/FISA/Corporate Criminal/Big Oil/Big War Agenda of the last 8 years, and take a hard left turn, it would be a beginning.

Of course, they'd have to actually stop taking the Rule of Law and Constitution "Off the Table" to placate some imaginary base of "Center Democrats".

Polling OVERWHELMINGLY shows they exist ONLY in the imaginations of Neocon Meddlers and Criminal Corporate MSM "Reporters".

Take the EXACT OPPOSITE position of the Goose-Stepping Neocon Nazis, and watch 80% + of America fall right in line.

America stands on the edge of a cliff, leading to a bottomless pit, and 5 more minutes of Criminal Corporate Control under Pappy McSame, would be plenty adequate to send us over the cliff, putting America in the History Books.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:06 PM

@mao

I'm not interested in your number either, apart from your number being up.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 09:34 AM

@mateostgo

I've read your letter archive.

You began posting here on July 24, 2008. Almost all of your 38 letters is devoted to the goal of attacking Barack Obama- either with a scare screed ("Obama is the antichrist"), or with needlessly divisive agitprop on behalf of a candidate who has officially lost.

The remainder of your letters consist of protests of outrage against your critics here, who suspect you of being a shill on a Republican dirty tricks mission.

I'm adding myself to that list.

And no, I'm not interested in your ISP number, which you've previously volunteered as if it necessarily had any bearing on your credibility.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 07:29 AM

Thankx youz

Zylander Repulsikin Whynot the Third. Thank you for those few brief words of insight from the bottom of a well.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 06:01 AM

Why JOHN'the-Fraud'KERRY = 'BARRY'aint-my-pay-grade'OBAMA

With his selection of JOE'was-it-hair-plugs-or-a-brain-transplant'BIDEN; 'BARRY'didjaknow-my-parents-met-at-Selma?'OBAMA proves he is the equal of JOHN'the-Fraud'KERRY in his choice of JOHN'bs-latex-salesman-and-scumbag-lawyer'EDWARDS for Veep!!! SOME 'CHANGE' & 'HOPE'??? Ha. Perhaps 'BARRY' should title his next page turner 'How Ise Lost a 'sure' deal on the WhiteHouse - not helped by TONY REZKO??? [Wasn't that 'Hairplug'JOE still whining how to 'best' the NKOREANS???!!!] Well maybe JOHN'the-old-fool'McCAIN will choose equally as poorly??? WHO KNOWS???!!! Then both DEMBHOLES & REPUBLICANTS can indulge in the 'SAME-OLD-SAME-OLD' of AMERIKAN POLITICS???!!! No new ideas - no 'CHANGE'[except for the racial mix of the contenders!] - and absoltely No 'HOPE' for innovative-informed-practical leadership for at least the next four years in this nation!!!

Friday, August 22, 2008 10:11 PM

OK, now I'm exasperated too

I was a delegate for Kucinich in 04 and went as far as the state convention. I think our current two-party corporate-run bi-opoly system sucks. I didn't believe in Kerry. The way he came up from behind in Iowa always seemed suspect to me. I was 100 percent behind Dennis, and I thought he consistently got the short end of the stick from the MSM and his own party. It made me MAD. But I SUCKED IT UP to vote and even campaign for Kerry because nothing, NOTHING seemed worse that four more years. And look at the damage done in four years!! For crying out loud, people! I get it! But for god's sake have some effing PRIORITIES!! That's what it comes down to. You think we, and our global neighbors, and our planet, can actually take four more years of this authoritarian militaristic paranoid shite? That's a hell of a thing to take for granted. Good luck with that, I'll be in Finland.

Friday, August 22, 2008 08:32 PM

@braindead

Write in Rumplestilskin fot the good it'll accomplish. lol.

Friday, August 22, 2008 08:05 PM

Republikenhead

Eat shit, troll!

I caught that too, 'Democrat Party.' Your attempt at trolling is the textbook definition of Epic Fail.

Friday, August 22, 2008 07:06 PM

score

soylentgreenleftovers 1, fake Dem 0

Friday, August 22, 2008 06:39 PM

1000 words of nonsense by zen

"I'm a since 1968 Democrat, Dukakis, Stevenson, blah blah blah" you know the one thing that gives you up, Republican? No one but a Republican refers to it as the "Democrat" Party.

It is "Democratic" Party, Republican.

Friday, August 22, 2008 06:32 PM

Time for Center Democrats to form ...

It's clear, with the legacy of: gosh, Adlai Stevenson; Eugene McCarthy; George McGovern; Teddy Kennedy; Gary Hart; Paul Tsongas; Michael Dukakis; Dr. Madman Howard Dean; John Kerry ... that the Ultra Liberal Elitist wing of the Democrat Party aren't willing to examine why Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton WON their elections. And why Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, have been elected: the country isn't as liberal as these nerdniks think it is.

This, of course, includes all the MSNBC wierdos who propel the ULEs along in their dream world.

If McCain is so much a dud, why is his gap narrowing on Obama?

The circumstances.

I am a Hillary supporter. Based on how she's been treated, I've left the Democrat Party, where I've voted since 1968, including, for a fair share of the names up above. I've realized that the liberal wing of the liberal party is fried. The ideological war waged by the media and Obama's forces against the Clintons stinks. Fine. Have your way.

Hopefully, I will write in Senator Clinton's name, and vote for any other reasonable Democrat here in NM.

I will never vote for Obama.

I will hope that a heavily Democratic landslide in the Congress will force McCain to either deal, or, get run over by tanks.

I could care less about the Democrat Party any more.

To not give 17+ million voters (Dems, Indpendents, even moderate Republicans), who voted for Clinton in greater numbers than the others did for Obama ... a chance to put her name in nomination, hopefully, will be the last frigging straw for millions of us centrists.

Enough. Find a new Party. No kidding.

Center Democrats.

Christian Republicans.

Liberal Democrats.

Libertarians.

Greens.

Socialists.

And Natural Law Party voters.

It's time for coalition government.

From now on, I will respond to every poll I get with a lie: I am voting for McCain.

I won't, but let the pollsters figure it out.

With Obama, the clue is this: recent polls suggest 43% McCain-46% for Obama. That's 89%. Where are the other 11%? That's a serious, serious # of undecideds. In the last 10 or 11 primaries Clinton went up against Obama, she won more of the undecideds than Obama. That's just the way it will play out. 46% for Obama, with a loss of several points as the final three months grind on, he does poorly in debates, and people see and hear more about his ultra liberal record (along with Biden's ultra liberal record, or see a completely unconvincing Evan Bayh or Jack Reed on the national stage as VPs). Let's just say everything stays the same.

46% for Obama. He gets 4% of the undecideds. That's 50%. McCain gets 7%. That's 50%. We're into another photo finish. If McCain wins, and the Democrats win the Congress, that's good enough for me. He won't get anything done. Moderates WILL be appointed to the Supremes out of necessity and understanding that vetoes can be over ridden. Fine. Obama's shut down.

I think if Obama can't get it together; if we have more tension with Russia; if Obama is shown to be ridiculously connected like a moron to denying the Surge worked, and that's why there is talk of a 2011 pullout of troops; higher and higher gas prices; mortgage failure; McCain gains ground, not only on off-shore drilling, but more willingness to build new refineries, and, a complete review of nuclear power, after analyzing how Israel, France and Japan all have built (and Germany, too), safe and secure nuclear plants ... that's not good for Obama.

If he tries to equivocate on those hard core Leftist "no's," he's not going to gain another liberal vote.

In fact, he WILL lose some moderate voters, as people understand that the complexity of "energy independence," really WILL require major compromises in the short term (meaning, at least a decade). Again, any loss from Obama's 46% right now will be damaging.

Hopefully, enough Senator Clinton moderates will write her name in, that the DNC gets the message. If they don't, screw them. It's over. Hopefully, for millions of we moderate Democrats, we'll go elsewhere and the DNC can see yet another goofball ticket go down to defeat.

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