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How Obama can be the un-Kerry in Denver

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  • Friday, August 22, 2008 12:57 PM

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    Democracy issues: MI and FL was a huge issue for us. Four other states also moved up their primaries: NV, IA, SC and NH. None of these states were penalized as Obama was expected to win them all. MI and FL where Clinton polled to win were set to be penalized.

    The above statement is inaccurate. All the primaries listed above had been moved by August 2007. (SEE: New York Times Election 2008 Guide, August 22, 2007.) Clinton was well ahead of Obama for most of 2007 both nationally and state-by-state.

    SUMMER 2007 POLLS RESULTS FOR IOWA, NEVADA, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA

    August 18, Zogby poll (Iowa): Clinton 30% ; Obama 19%

    August 16, Research 2000 poll (Nevada): Clinton 39%; Obama 19%

    September 26, Zogby poll (New Hampshire): Clinton 38%; Obama 23%

    September 27, Rasmussen (South Carolina): Clinton 43%; Obama 30%

    Source: electoral-vote.com

    It is not true that the above states were not penalized because Obama was projected to win them. At the time Florida was penalized (August 2007), Clinton was well ahead in IA, NV, NH and SC. At the time Michigan was penalized (December 2007), Clinton was still well ahead in these states. (See: Pew Poll results, below.)

    The DNC imposed sanctions on Florida in August 2007. (Source: Washington Post, August 26, 2007.) The DNC imposed sanctions on Michigan in December. (Source: Washington Post, December 2, 2007.) In December 2007 Reuters/Zogby poll showed that, nationally, Clinton led Obama 40% to 32%. On December 2, 2007 the Pew Research Center released the following poll results:

    Iowa: Clinton 31%; Obama 26%

    New Hampshire: Clinton 38%; Obama 19%

    South Carolina: Clinton 45%; Obama 31%

    (There was no data on Nevada.)

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