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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
If your Church preaches hate for this Country then I wiill throw rocks at it, and if Hillarys does the same thing then rocks for her church too.
...then you pissed your pants is a real strong bet.
Vashon, you're more than a masterbator, you're a master-hater.
This article sure brought the idiots out of the wordwork on Salon! So many to choose from -- so many people using ill-will and bad faith as their starting (and ending) points. Examples:
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KateTex: "Smears are never attractive, but it's hard to work up much sympathy for the Obamas, given their recent thorough trashing of the Clintons accomplished through innuendo, memo, falsehood, omission, and sneer. As they say - what goes around, comes around. Guess it's Mr. & Mrs. O's turn now, huh?"
What a nasty little missive this is, and untrue as well. Obama won the primary using far more above-board methods than Clinton did. Shall I copy-and-paste the huge laundry list of "kitchen sink" tactics by Hillary Clinton yet again? You know I will. What's really sad about KateTex's crap here is that it's like she's just some sort of stimulus-response robot who has the same, Hillary-based response to everything. The irrationality is so thick, so fetid, and so Schadenfreudically Ugly. Grow a fucking heart, KateTex.
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Jameka: "So it goes ... When you cynically accuse someone of "racism" because she said Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights bill into law that Martin Luther King fought for, don't expect everyone to cry when the same egregious thing is being done to you. I will vote for Obama, but that using of MLK's name in such an abominable way is something I will never forget. What goes around..."
Jameka practically parrots KateTex's point, almost as if they were the same person. But Jameka amps it up to an even higher level of inaccuracy. The Obama campaign did not accuse the Clintons of "racism" for the Lyndon Johnson stuff, sorry. Supporters may have said any number of things, of course, but then again Clinton's supporters sure played fast and loose (and still do) with bogus charges of "sexism." So take your Hillary Clinton bitterness, and your inaccurate charges, and shove 'em. I'm glad Jameka will vote for Obama though.
Let's also not forget that even if one were to assume for the sake of argument that Obama's campaign did use underhanded tactics, that certainly doesn't make the emails that are the subject of this article defensible, unless you're just a total moral relativist (or have no morals to begin with). Nor is there equivalence, since Hillary Clinton wasn't the target of forwarded false emails, or any other rumors that called into doubt her patriotism or religion.
And for Chrissakes, can't you people stop making everything about Hillary Clinton? Obama is the candidate. Sorry you're so down on him, but again, how about getting a heart?
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Jimboz: "Instead of bamboozeling us on "all the anti-obama e-mails", just do us a favor an spend maybe just one page to items like obama's (er, barry soetoro's) residence in Indonesia, his phoney birth document posted on his website and kos's, the supression of the CAC documents now taking place, and any of the other many lies and distortions by barry. Fortunately, people are starting to wise up, and barry's chances are diminishing. We just hope that enough people wise up before the coronation in Denver."
Wow, Jimboz responds to an article debunking bogus rumors by....adding more bogus rumors! Jimboz lives up to the hick-style of his name, and he misspells "bamboozling" to boot. Hey Jimbo, here's another Snopes link for you to scoff at (regarding Obama's birth certificate):
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
I want you to grow a heart.
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thingswesaid: "Is there perhaps a grain of truth? "an America-hating black separatist radical" - you know, we've all heard the "sermons" he sat under for twenty years. I call it black racism. Yeah, I know he quit the church, after heavy pressure, this year. I wouldn't sit in a church like that for one Sunday. So yes, I think he kind of hates white people. Why wouldn't I? Who listens to that garbage? Let alone supports it?"
To answer your first question, no, there is not perhaps a grain of truth. We're talking about a thesis that Michelle Obama wrote when she was 21 years old. But it appears you're using the article as an excuse to repeat the same tripe about the church the Obamas were members of in Chicago. The fact that you call the sermons "black racism" shows that you're already using bad faith, since as obnoxious as Rev. Wright is, nothing he's been quoted as saying amounts to racism. Plus, the stuff played on a loop were out-of-context quotes that were cherry-picked out of hundreds of sermons. But whatever, it's obvious you've made up your mind to make as much hay out of this Rev. Wright stuff as you possibly can, even while you ignore and avoid the subject of the article, which is the spurious claims of the forwarded emails. (Do you have any thoughts about that matter?) This is nothing new from you, thingswesaid. You show little evidence of possessing a heart. Please, grow one sometime.
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James T. Kirk: "The hardcore angry liberals (I don't know if that's you) are quite secure in their antisemitic ravings. If Muslims are the new Jews, Jews are the niggers. In fact unless Obama declares nuclear pogrom on Israel his first day in office, 3/4ths of Salon readership will flip out and scribble angrily that they won't vote for Obama for President for life."
Your messages are an insult to everybody involved in, or a fan of, "Star Trek." What does any of this article have to do with anti-semitism? And what evidence is there (answer: none) that the Obamas are in any way anti-semitic? What's with this ugly crap about "jews/niggers" etc.? I would tell you to grow a heart, but first and foremost grow a mind. You have some completely insane agenda that is based on some ugly paranoid, persecution fantasy.
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