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Saturday, Nov 7, 2009
...just as soon as you likewise look into a life sucker.
Come on, I'm itchin', bring on the bitchin'..
why wait? Just leave now. Consider it a preemptive strike.
Thank goodness there is someone left here with the strength to fight off these fools.
Sermon me some more.
The question still remains unanswered, why did he sit in that Temple of Hate for 20 years? When he finally separated himself it was only by his handlers prying his hands off Rev. Wright's Robes.
Because in some aspects of his life, he is essentially passive and conflict-avoidant. I am reading his first memoir and that comes across so clearly. If there is conflict, he leaves the room or mentally separates himself from even the issues themselves. This is what makes him so ... fluid.
He is also quite able to overlook differences -- even very stark differences --he has with others in order to stand outside the situation and adopt a stance (one might say shield) of dispassion.
This can be an advantage in some situations and a disadvantage in others.
He greedily took what he could learn from Wright that was useful, but it was his lack of true connection that allowed him to later walk away. It would be impossible to say to what degree Barack Obama shared the beliefs of his pastor, or even to what degree he shares the beliefs of his wife.
I suspect that even she does not know.
You say you enjoy hate sermons and other things of a similar nature. Obviously you get some satisfaction from the activity beyond the intellectual stimulation.
Actually no. I am a Unitarian-Universalist and the particular church which I used to attend was relentlessly cerebral. Also, I missed many sermons on purpose. Instead, I became a religious education director and, since classes with children ran concurrent to the sermons, I happily missed sermons.
Not unlike the guy that goes to strip joints there is satisfaction beyond the level of artistic appreciation.
I wouldn't know. I don't go to strip joints. Do you?
Is it the same satisfying experience for Barack? Do Reverend Wright and Father Pfleger say out loud what is in Barack's heart.
I suspect sometimes, but I have no proof of it. Let us not forget that Obama initially began attending the church for political reasons.
Michelle was there more regularly than Barack and she exposed their children to that poison.
No. Not if the Sunday school was at the same time as the sermons. Few churches encourage small children in services. That is one reason why they have child care and classes for the children. We have no way of knowing what the children learned. I would quite interested to know.
This transcends "e" mails and poison pen letters, it is far more serious and fundamental, why did he keep going when even his pal Oprah decided to leave because she was uncomfortable with some of the sermons. Too many questions too few answers.
Maybe Oprah is more proactive. Remember that Obama's first memoir is about a search for identity. I suspect he is still searching. Obviously he could learn something from Oprah about marketing oneself. Oprah's success is dependent upon her white as well as her black audience.
But to return to my original thought, when one makes Barack Obama responsible for his wife's beliefs and statements, one essentially does to the Obamas what was done to the Clintons, which can be summed up in the term Billary.
If is a sexist assumption that a wife must think as her husband. Wouldn't it also be a sexist assumption that a man must think as his wife?
You're starting to make a cynic believe that there is such a thing as an intensely cerebral church in America. I don't yet have the faith, but maybe I'll work on it.
Supposedly, 10 percent, or MORE, of the U.S. believes Obama is a Muslim. If Obama doesn't win the Presidency, I am going to make plans to move to Canada or Europe, where we won't have the danger of becoming a fascist state rearing its awful head.
On NPR I heard that it is something like 13%, and that the percentage is the same for Democrats as for Republicans.
That is extremely telling. For one thing, I think it demonstrates that the Muslim meme is not all about racism, although certainly some of the desire to believe that is due to racism.
It is frustrating to me to see people keep misusing words and concepts. Racism and religious bigotry are not the same. Also, it is disturbing to me as a religious liberal to see people so vicious towards Muslims and to see people acting as if there is one monolithic Islam.
When people critique Islam, it makes sense to ask, "Which Islam?" There is no more one Islam than there is one Christianity. Religion and the nuances of belief are more complex than that.
I second that. It's like watching someone play whack-a-mole.
Good job, XrandaduThank goodness there is someone left here with the strength to fight off these fools.
I am not a good joke teller, but I will try:
Saint Peter came to souls waiting to get into heaven. He said, "We have two pathways. One can go directly to heaven and experience the joys of it immediately or one can attend a three day Seminar about Heaven."
He told them to line up into two lines, one marked Heaven > and one marked Seminar about Heaven >. Immediately, the Catholics, Baptists, Pentacostals, and the Presbyterians rushed for the line to heaven. The Methodists ambled a bit but they too lined up for Heaven. The Unitarian-Universalists (except for a few neo-pagans) all lined up for the Seminar about Heaven. A couple of UUs demanded to know who the speakers would be and what were their credentials. It appeared at first that they might not go at all.
But this seems to be the only one my aunt HAS NOT forwarded. Probably because after the last one I clicked Reply to All and (politely) told her she was wrong and corrected each slander point-by-point.
I have a feeling that she too finally learned the lesson "know your audience."
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The Maine fight was supposed to be the dress rehearsal for repealing California's Prop. 8 -- but gay marriage lost
Once one obtains Seriousness credentials in the Washington media, they are irrevocable no matter one's conduct.
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