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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Emotional arguments always prevail over logic and reason. And the emotion of fear is the strongest emotion of them all.
If Obama wants to win, he must start fighting fire with fire.
I want to hear more about the runious economy the right has created.
You both seem to be hung up on religion. Where in my posts is my reasoning based on religion? Believing an 8 1/2 month old in the womb needs protection has nothing to do with religion. Obviously neither of you have ever seen an ultrasound. FTT: where did I write "stopping gays from getting married is more important than...everything"? Interracial marraige has absolutely nothing to do with same sex marriage. Amendments to the Constitution have a high hurdle to overcome, so why all the comnplaining? And again, I'm not talking about life at conception...is an 8 1/2 month old a worthless piece of crap because the mother is inconvenienced? Libs want to protect the most obscene cases of late-term abortions because they're worried about the slippery slope. You can't even admit that.
Senator Obama is never specific. He's more of a typical politician than any I've seen in a long time. His talk about his faith also rings hollow, as if it's just another campaign speech and pre-written. This might not be the case about his faith, but it's the way it comes off to me. As for never being specific, well he isn't and I don't think we ever get a straight answer out of him. Even when he does comment on an issue, then changes his mind, he is constantly going back and telling us something like.."If you had listened to me in the past I said yadda yadda yadda..." His explainations never seem to really answer his flip flops, his gaffes like that in which is known as "bittergate"...the "typical white people" comment or any of his relationships with people that others find of questionable character.
I still don't think I've gotten an understanding of the man, I don't think I ever will. It will always be non-specific, or he'll brush it off as "silly" which he seems to do alot. He is right in being too cautious...or is it deceptive? He should just tell the truth, take a stance for once in his career. Enough of the easy going guy who basically says noting and keeps his opinions to himself by voting "present" or not voting at all. A person does that so their is nothing that will stick...but it leave a greasy candidate you just have to wonder where he stand.
8 1/2 months? How many "partial-birth abortions" are carried out at near full term? The info on the internet (always reliable, of course) says most such procedures are at 4/5/6 months. I shouldn't think they're done lightly, but in extenuating circumstances. Perhaps you can supply good information as to numbers of procedures and reasons given. At any rate, that's something of a red herring given that the vast majority of abortions are done within 12 weeks. And most of the opposition to abortion is indeed from religious people seeking to impose their beliefs on other people. And that's also the case with people opposed to gay marriage.
started pandering to the Christian Right, he lost any chance of getting my vote. Better losing with Nader than winning with another Democrat who runs left in the primaries only to run right in the general and govern right thereafter.
Paul, may I rephrase your challenge to give it a more accurate context: "Name a single domestic evangelical issue taken up by the Straussian-Neoconservative unitary presidency, controlled through the office of the vice president, that demonstrates any commitment to either it's fundamentalist Christian base or to the principles of Christianity itself."
You seem to be forgetting how the religious right was manipulated and sold out, while Karl Rove infamously mocked your "ignorance" among friends in the White House and bragged about "how easily you were manipulated" for political purposes.
On the other hand, from an historical perspective, if we consider the actual militant-religious 1st century Zealot Party impulse that led to the Jewish Wars, the rejection of the messianic claims of Yehoshua ben Yusef, his betrayal to and execution by the Roman-backed civil and religious authorities of the day, the mid-first century Zealot uprisings, the destruction by Rome of the Second Temple in 70 AD, the ultimate defeat of the Zealots by Rome at Masada and the penultimate Great Diaspora affecting all of Judea over the next two millenniums, the theocratic imperialist militarism that has corrupted Evangelical Christianity to its core (as expressed superficially and misinterpreted literally in the Book of Revelations), then we find in the Neoconservative Movement an overwhelmingly Zionist, yet generally ironical agnostic character, that satisfies the Evangelical Movement's apocryphal world dominionist bloodlust.
To imply the claim that the "Christian Right" represents the spiritual teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and that "Christianity," therefore, is under continued persecution in America is so patently absurd that my incandescent black velvet painting of Jesus hanging over my computer has begun to weep tears of blood.
By the way, John Hagee's Christians for Israel issued a statement this weekend you may find newsworthy: "Recent spirit-led prophesy has revealed to us that the Second Coming is eminent. The Great Day of His Return has been deciphered from the Book of Revelations and has been announced to us by sacred scripture as 'Tuesday, November 4th, 2008.' You are encouraged to remain at home at prayer between the hours of 7:00 AM Eastern Time and 7:00 PM Pacific Time. Anyone who strays out of doors between those hours for any reason will be at risk of being left behind. On that Great Day, The Rapture will commence immediately following the close of the polls in Honolulu."
re Hagee's prophecy - you gotta be kidding. What was McCain's connection to him again? Maybe that should be publicized, along with this silly end-times thing. (Shakes head, mutters...wishes I had a black velvet painting...)
[Have not read the responses yet - Will - They look like Pavorotti plus the other two, but we know they can't sing.]
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