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Saturday, Nov 7, 2009
Better for the rest of us, at least.
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."--Clarence Darrow
Today, the world has improved by his death greatly.
Um...how? As someone I'm sure Mr Helms would have despiesed (being both Black and gay, The horror!) I'll admit that I'm not breaking down in uncontrollable sobs and holding candlelight vigils for him. Nevertheless, I really don't get why I should cheer and glorify in Helmes' death? As this one poster put it, how HAS the world been improved by his death?
I had forgotten he was alive. Now he's not. It makes no difference.
We will have a black President over his dead body, and one the product of "miscegenation," too.
I voted against Helms twice. He was personally gracious, amiable, and collegial. He was politically vicious, grubby, and bigoted. I am sad that his death got "reported" on the fourth of July, because Jesse Helms the man was a nice grandfather, a pleasant old man, and having his personal (unobjectionable) death tied to national politics (where he was nasty and mean) once more plays into the theater of things like the Jesse Helms Foundation.
Thank you, sir, for being so gracious.
He did more to destroy this country than anyone other person! He represented all that is evil in our society! All that is detestable in the south! I can only hope there actually is a God! And God has prepared a special spot in hell for bigots like him. He and Jerry Falwell should get along just fine!
If you're an Ike Republican, then you're left of the left today. The pendulum has shifted so far that left isn't even centrist.
Like you, I think most people are evil. I know I am. Unlike you, I don't believe in God. So, I should assert that I think most people are bad, since evil is tangled in theology. I think that most of us, in certain circumstance, would man a watchtower at Auschwitz, would swing a machete in Rwanda, and would rape a man with a broomstick in one of Saddam's rape rooms. It is our common proclivity for evil that has me supporting your position in this thread. I too want to publicly denigrate Sen. Helms. I would if it weren't for your thin, fine line, which delineates decency.
...if he spreads the amount of hate Helms did. There should be a law against claiming a total bastard was a "good" guy in his personal life because there's no way he could have not spread his bigotry and hatred to his family and friends. Simple math--if a person does more bad things than good, they are a bad person, period.
Last night I dreamt the last person Jesse Helms saw, as he started his journey to 'White Christians-only Hell', was a black nurse shouting into the old cretin's ear: "The good news is you're going to white hell but the bad news is you won't live a few more months to see a black man in the White House. Goodbye Mr Helms, if you get a chance to speak to Strom Thurmond down there (after he's taken his pee-pee out of your mouth) don't forget to tell him about the USA getting a black president".
There is a button/knob on yout TV.
I assume you even HAVE a TV.
Have someone explain its function to you.
After they spend so much frustrating time attempting to get you to understand that, ask them to explain about not reading that with which you disagree to the point of attmepting to be a moral elitist.
I'd bet that you fail at both regularly.
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Their hero died on the birthday of America, as did Jefferson and Madison. How can we put a spin on this? By suggesting the spirit of America - the intangible soul that makes the sum of the parts greater than the whole -- decided that it was time for Jesse to go.
Yeah, it's nasty, but apropos.
Jesse Helms variety of diseases tells me he died by rotting from the inside out, reflective on the type of policitian he chose to be.
He was heartless, cruel, stupid, unmanly, and immoral.
Good riddance!
Well I do have something good to say about Jesse. In 1984 I became so disgusted with his rants I decided to quit smoking to at least cut off my payments to the tobacco industry that kept him rolling in the green. If not for Jesse, I might still be burning 2 packs a day.
And to think, I never thanked him. Thanks to Jesse I am a much healthier, and richer progressive.
Any man's death diminishes me and I don't send to know for whom the bell tolls, but I'll make an exception in Helms' case.
Wonder how many have volunteered to drive a stake through his heart -- er, hort -- to make sure the f**ker is dead.
I've found this to be true:
If someone CAN be kind or gracious or thoughtful, that means that in general, THEY ARE NOT.
Jesse Helms, it is said could be kind and compassionate. Those who say this are of course attempting to say that there was another side, another layer to him, that he was somehow, a more complex and nuanced human being.
Ummm, no.
There was no "nuance" to Sen. Helms. No shades to his personality. No rich textures to his character. He was a mean-sprited, hateful, bigoted old coot who believed with all his heart that America was not intended for people who are not white male heterosexuals. He not only believed that, he fought for that white supremacist ideal for 30 years in the Senate and long before he entered politics. Those here who go on about how "impolite" it is to speak ill of the dead should remember that the GOP's Senator from North Carolina would be more than impolite to anyone here posting simply because we do not fit his ideal. Were he still able to work in politics, he would be doing precisely what he had done before: making it more difficult to just live free in this country. So a pox on this faux "civility". Jesse Helms is dead, at long last. The toast that we raise to celebrate his passing is the same that we will raise when George Bush leaves the White House. Is there actually anyone here who will be "civil" about that?
Didn't think so.
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